I got it in here!

[ViZeen]

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Hey I got it in here!

System Information
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Time of this report: 8/16/2006, 04:12:31
       Machine name: TOM
   Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: MSI
       System Model: MS-6380E
               BIOS: Version 1.00
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) ,  MMX,  3DNow, ~1.3GHz
             Memory: 768MB RAM
          Page File: 202MB used, 904MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: RADEON X1600 Series
     Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
        Chip type: ATI display adapter AGP (0x71C2)
         DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C2&SUBSYS_030B1002&REV_00
   Display Memory: 512.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
          Monitor: COMPAQ 7550 Color Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6587 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 12/1/2005 23:49:37, 252928 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: n/a
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 12/1/2005 23:49:18, 1412608 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-3282-11CF-096A-0123A1C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x1002
        Device ID: 0x71C2
        SubSys ID: 0x030B1002
      Revision ID: 0x0000
      Revision ID: 0x0000
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_B ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
 Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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            Description: C-Media Wave Device
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_13F6&DEV_0111&SUBSYS_011113F6&REV_10
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: cmaudio.sys
         Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0643 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Debug
            WHQL Logo'd: n/a
          Date and Size: 11/18/2002 16:51:40, 377358 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: C-Media
         HW Accel Level: Standard
              Cap Flags: 0x0
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: C-Media Wave Device
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: cmaudio.sys
         Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0643 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Debug
          Date and Size: 11/18/2002 16:51:40, 377358 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x0
           Format Flags: 0x0

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DirectMusic
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        DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
     DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
    Acceleration: n/a
           Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
                  MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
                  MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
                  C-Media Wave Device, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  MPU-401 [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
                  MPU-401 [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
        Registry: OK
     Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
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      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Saitek X45
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x053C
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
         Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1106, 0x3038
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Lower Filters: vulfntrs
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/4/2004 02:08:42, 57600 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/29/2002 08:00:00, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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+ CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device
| Location: PCI bus 0, device 8, function 0
| Matching Device ID: pci\ven_13f6&dev_0111&subsys_011113f6&rev_10
| Service: cmpci
|
+-+ Standard Game Port
| | Matching Device ID: *pnpb02f
| | Service: gameenum
| | Driver: gameenum.sys, 8/4/2004 02:08:21, 10624 bytes

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PS/2 Devices
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+ Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/4/2004 02:14:36, 52736 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/4/2004 01:58:32, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 04:01:07, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/4/2004 01:58:32, 24576 bytes
|
+ PS/2 Compatible Mouse
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/4/2004 02:14:36, 52736 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 01:58:32, 23040 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 04:01:07, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 01:58:32, 23040 bytes

[Skuzzy]

Tha C-Media sound chip is going to cause a lot of stability problems.  The drivers for it are the worst I have ever seen for a DirectX sound device.

[eagl]

For framerates, you're definately slowed down by the cpu.  I think the x1600 video card isn't terribly bad, but the cpu is less than half as fast as today's mid-range cpus.

If you can't afford a system upgrade, you will simply have to adjust the video settings sliders down and accept the lower image quality.  Use the smaller texture sizes, run at 1024x768, and run the sliders down low.

The problem with upgrading your system is that although your video card isn't terrible, upgrading the cpu/mobo to the latest technology would require you to get a new vid card.  And upgrading to a cpu/mobo that has an AGP slot will be spending money on a fairly old technology.

You might consider getting an inexpensive Athlon64 on a motherboard that has an AGP slot, so you can keep using your video card.  You should also be able to re-use your memory (your system uses DDR memory, right?) so you could probably get a decent AH upgrade for right around $180 with just a cpu and motherboard.

Then you can save up for a full system refresh, because your next full system upgrade is going to need new EVERYTHING, motherboard, cpu, memory, vid card, etc.  But for right around $200 (or even less if you buy a cheap A64 mobo and low-end athlon64) you can probably  put off a full system upgrade for another year.

There are reasonably decent micro-ATX and ATX motherboards for socket939 athlon 64 that have decent integrated sound and network for around $80.   ASUS, MSI, ABIT all make cheap motherboards that would be suitable.  A socket 939 athlon 64 3200+ is also under $100.  Check newegg.com for decent prices, or if you're feeling brave, find a Fry's computer store and check out their cheapo A64 combos.  Just make sure you don't accidentally end up with a pci-e motherboard if you want to keep using your AGP video card.

If your memory is not DDR (usually listed as either DDR-133/166/200 or PC-2100, PC-2700, up to about PC-4000), then you're hosed and you might as well save your pennies until you can afford a complete system refresh.  Then go for whatever has the best price/performance within your budget.

[ViZeen]

Thanks Eagl
You really got me lined out on what options I have.  Now its just a matter of debating to myself and coming up with a choice.
Again thanks

[sonicboom970]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
Tha C-Media sound chip is going to cause a lot of stability problems.  The drivers for it are the worst I have ever seen for a DirectX sound device.

TY SO MUCH FOR THAT QUOTE

i took out my sound card like a month ago and had been having BIG instability problems and the like so i may just have to get a new sound card

(yippe)


anyways
how does your amd processor have MMX i thoght a lawsuit between amd and intel (one of many) made it so no other company could use MMX on their processors in fact on the wiki NO ONE knows what it stands for but 3d now typical amd competitor w/ MMX and they do the same thing so ya why would it have both?

how does your processor not have SSE? isnt that like a min reqierment for everything i wish i had SSE4 (TNJ MNJ)

SSE all versions (1,2,3, and the new 4 aka Tejas new instructions or somtihn that starts w/ an M new instructions) Helps w/ floating point opperations in fact FLOPS (floating point operations) are important in Flight sims so im wondering how you can run AH2:confused:

[ViZeen]

I wish I did know,  but I have no idea what your asking other than details about the cpu.
I have ordered I brand new puter! So wish me luck on getting it set up and working right when it gets here.

[sonicboom970]

MMX is also used as SSE instructions.. (it is the same thing as SSE but theres some VERY complicated  relations between registers and Cache
and how registers are accsesed how many there are ect)
i looked it up on the WIKI and 3D-NOW! is the same thing as MMX sooo..

I duno i was bored and reading around when i stumbled across it i had to ask somting


Good luck with your new computer

[ViZeen]

right over my head.....I wish I had more time to learn more about this thing. Like
now power sorce has crapped out and i an about to replace it today....so if yall dont see me for awhile you know I fried it.