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Offline Shifty

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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2006, 12:12:43 PM »
The Gladiator is far from a WWI aircraft. I know Krusty the WWI stuff usually fails. There seems to be wuite a few people myself included who would love to see more early war birds. The 1939 stuff  like the Gladiators, A5M's, Ki-27's P-26's  on and on. Of course theres just not very many of us. It's mainly the special events , and CT/AVA crowd.

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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2006, 12:22:06 PM »
Of course, of course! I got side-tracked for a bit.

I'd like to see some early craft for better scenarios. However the way AH damage works the 7mm/30cal guns don't do jack. That's a fact. AH would require a damage model re-working from the ground up (which in fact I can promise will never happen -- too much time and effort required) before that is fixed.

Without a better damage model they'll be utterly useless IMO. For example we have -- what? -- 2000 rounds of 7mm on the Val, with 2 forward guns. This plane has about the same performance as any of the early war biplanes, if you leave the bombload off. It's also got a rear gun, something most biplanes don't boast. And yet it's never used as a fighter. Why? It's not the speed. It's not the weak performance. It's the guns. You literally have to use up 1500 of those rounds on one plane (and hit 80% of said rounds!) before you get a kill.

In a plane like the Gladiator, it would have 4 .303 guns but less ammo per gun (300 rounds? Less I think), you'd only get into one fight, and even if you land every last bullet you have you'll most likely have to run for home with no kill and now no way to fight back.

I'm jaded about it. On the one hand I'd love the early war planes, but with the way Ah is set up I just can't see them ever "working".

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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2006, 12:28:53 PM »
The Gladiator's speed was in the mid upper 200s, not lower 200s.
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2006, 12:32:19 PM »
220-230 last I recall? Let me go look it up

EDIT: About 250. Still too slow :lol

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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2006, 02:17:46 PM »
Well, the number I recall was about 265mph.
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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2006, 02:29:48 PM »
Close enough :aok

The first site I foudn on the InterWebamajiggy said 255, so I added the "about" part.

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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2006, 02:36:09 PM »
I understand not having them in the MA but if they had a arena for the WWI birds by them selfs??? I would love that!!!:aok :aok :noid
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« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2006, 02:38:17 PM »
You can try out the Gladiator, CR 42 and Swordfish in Target Tobruk if you want. The Gladiator in TT has a tough time with the C 200 open cockpit Macchi, so it would not likely survive long in AH. TT is set up with more dedicated engine management requirements and you may burn up your engine if you aren't careful. They also have the 3 engined Italian bomber, SM 79. TT takes a scenario approach but they usually have very low numbers. You can test fly the various planes offline.

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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2006, 04:10:49 PM »
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Well, the number I recall was about 265mph.


You sure its not 266;) :aok :p
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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2006, 04:37:38 PM »
I'm sure Viper means 266.1314159 mph. :P

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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2006, 05:06:48 PM »
It HAS been requested before  Here
Who are you to wave your finger?

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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2006, 05:24:27 PM »
Not just there, but many times.

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« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2006, 05:28:04 PM »
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I'm sure Viper means 266.1314159 mph. :P



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