Concrete Wall Building (Question)

[john9001]

carpet the garage and buy a BMW.  

[T0J0]

Originally posted by Hawklore


195" L
8.5" W
85" H

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80 ea Blocks 8"x8"x16"
 .26 CY mortar ".375 mortar joint"

Note:
Generally in florida the average garage remodel is done with frame and drywall, its cheaper and the future homeowners can remove the sticks easier then concrete blocks.

Floating a concrete floor on top of another concrete floor is possible, I wouldn't plan on getting an approved permit though....

GL
TJ

[Hawklore]

Originally posted by T0J0
80 ea Blocks 8"x8"x16"
 .26 CY mortar ".375 mortar joint"

Note:
Generally in florida the average garage remodel is done with frame and drywall, its cheaper and the future homeowners can remove the sticks easier then concrete blocks.

Floating a concrete floor on top of another concrete floor is possible, I wouldn't plan on getting an approved permit though....

GL
TJ

Thing is if we do this, there won't be future home owners.
Plus with hurricanes, and a tree directly across from the garage, a concrete wall makes sense, help prevent flooding into the room.

What is ea block? or is it 80 each block?

Moms also thinking of converting our yard into a car port, lol.

[vorticon]

im assuming the house is wood frame...why would you put a random cement wall into it? just lay down enough blocks to get where the door is to the same height as the rest of the foundation, and put a standard frame on it...

as for the cement floor, find out if you can put a raised wood floor in, again easier, less expensive, and requires fewer people wandering about your property while building it.


(keep in mind, i have no clue how those block jobs work, we pour the walls up here.)

[Hawklore]

Originally posted by vorticon
im assuming the house is wood frame...why would you put a random cement wall into it? just lay down enough blocks to get where the door is to the same height as the rest of the foundation, and put a standard frame on it...

as for the cement floor, find out if you can put a raised wood floor in, again easier, less expensive, and requires fewer people wandering about your property while building it.


(keep in mind, i have no clue how those block jobs work, we pour the walls up here.)

Our house is concrete block.

Thus the block as a wall.

[Angus]

This should work.
You may have to seal the lower joint of the wall (where it meets the floor).
You can do that nicely by cutting into the floor (concrete yes?) and inserting a metal sheet, - some 3 inches or so into the floor, and another 7 or so upwards into the wall.
Make the concrete of good strength and make some good framework (metal) to avoid cracks.
Putting concrete floor on top of concrete is no problem, - just have a decent framework in it.
If you need only an inch, you can also use the "float" concrete, which gives a very good and smooth finish, - no framework needed.

Now, coming from another country, I do not know the standards you have, but ours (Iceland) take earthquakes and floodings into account, and the regulations are quite strict.
If you need some parameters I will gladly post. (concrete strength dimensions in framework etc)

[Hawklore]

You know I'm suprised how many people are being helpful, Thanks!

I was expecting another emotinal rape deal or something.

Off to go figure out what the regulations are!

[Clifra Jones]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
Before you even think of converting a garage into a room, check the local ordnances.  In most cases, you need a permit and various inspections.  Once completed, your parents taxes will go up (depending on the state/local tax code) due to increase in living space.

If you do this buildout without going through the proper channels, your parents will pay dearly when they try to sell the house.

This is Florida, you need a permit to erect a dog house! (well, it wouldn;t suprise me).

Listen to Skuzzy, if you don't do everything right you will be sorry.

(BTW Hawk, I live in Jax too)

[Hawklore]

Originally posted by Clifra Jones
This is Florida, you need a permit to erect a dog house! (well, it wouldn;t suprise me).

Listen to Skuzzy, if you don't do everything right you will be sorry.

(BTW Hawk, I live in Jax too)

Yesar...

We're def. getting a permit.

It's only $80.00 or so for as small of an addition we are doing.

I had no idea FL was so strict.

But considering hurricanes and such it may not be such a bad idea.

[Hawklore]

-Updated Schematic-

Added Pocket Door in the middle wall.

Added Wall Switches/Outlets and drywall to far right wall.

Added Exterior Light and Window.

Reversed Door swing. (I was thinking inside doors when I swung them the other way, thanks guys! )

[storch]

oh forgot to add this suggestion.  if you intend on pouring concrete over existing concrete it's a good idea to add a coat of concrete bonding agent with a roller and allowing that to cure before pouring the fresh mud.  Lanco/Harris makes a great product for about $28 per gallon iirc.  It's the blue stuff not the white stuff.  you should be able to get it at Home depot or Lowe's.

[Angus]

Clean the old floor very well, then put on the bonding agent Storch mentioned.
It's normally an acrylic fluid (water solluble and smell like piss!)

Just make sure you have the structural standards.
The fact is that on a small job like this, it doesn't really cost so much keeping up to those.

Good luck mate

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Sandman
A garage is for cars. If it's being used for "storage", it's time to get rid of a lot of stuff.

I work on peoples houses every day.

Experiance proves to me that the very vast majority of garages are used to store crap in, not cars.

It is the exeption rather then the norm when I come across a house with even a two car garage that actiually gets used to park cars in.

And even then its only 1 car, usually the wifes that gets parked there.
His car remains outside and his half of the garages is usually stuffed with stuff, or converted over into a workshop of sorts or storage area for lawn equipment LOL

[Hawklore]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I work on peoples houses every day.

Experiance proves to me that the very vast majority of garages are used to store crap in, not cars.

It is the exeption rather then the norm when I come across a house with even a two car garage that actiually gets used to park cars in.

And even then its only 1 car, usually the wifes that gets parked there.
His car remains outside and his half of the garages is usually stuffed with stuff, or converted over into a workshop of sorts or storage area for lawn equipment LOL

How'd you know!!!

OF course my mom is such a guy she's made it so that she has this uber big sorting hamper, and it takes up quite a good amount of space so that noone can park in there unless everything is crammed to the sides!



I plan on grinding down the concrete, and applying that fixitive!

[storch]

you don't need to grind the concrete, the bonding agent will adhere to the old surface very nicely.