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« Reply #75 on: February 20, 2001, 10:04:00 AM »
Yeah Dejavu, Jeff Krosnoff's death in Toronto in 1996 was the same as Greg Moore's. You knew it was fatal after seeing the replay just once.  

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« Reply #76 on: February 20, 2001, 10:12:00 AM »
Again, from the 'Nurse' who has seen EVERYTHING from the ER room to the Burn intensive care unit ...she said "Nothing will prevent a head injury such as his when you go from 180 mph to 0 in less than a second".

The only safety precaution one could possibly use is not to race.

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« Reply #77 on: February 20, 2001, 10:22:00 AM »
 
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Yeah Dejavu, Jeff Krosnoff's death in Toronto in 1996 was the same as Greg Moore's. You knew it was fatal after seeing the replay just once.

He's the one that hit the post 15 feet off the ground?  If so.. I was watching that race too.  And I agree with you... not much doubt.

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« Reply #78 on: February 20, 2001, 11:49:00 AM »
Soft-wall technology will continue to evolve, and I predict they will eventually be used in nascar. Just 4 feet of soft barrier in front of the concrete would have a significant effect on the decceleration of the car, as well as the drivers head. Couple this with the head-and-neck safety device, and hopefully these head-ons into the wall won't be so catastrophic.

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« Reply #79 on: February 20, 2001, 03:55:00 PM »
Soft walls can significantly help reduce the force of a crash....but it will need to be drastically changed.

I remember an IROC race at INDY where I believe Fittipaldi hit the barrier at turn 4 and catapulted accross the track.  That was a scary incident.  Also if a car brushes the wall it usually "rides" it.....what happens if it hits the "airbag"?

I can't see any EXISTING track make significant changes without modifying what is already built....in a big way.  

There is also a few stories out there that gravel traps are not effective at slowing down cars on road courses....I'm not sure what is needed but I hate watching people die on live TV.

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« Reply #80 on: February 20, 2001, 04:42:00 PM »
I watched a piece on TV the other night that showed the latest technology, it really has come a long way. The most impressive one I saw was a design where the face of the soft wall was rigid, allowing a car striking at a glancing angle to deflect like a regular concrete barrier, but hit head-on, the wall collapsed. They said this design could take 3 hard hits before it had to be replaced...

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« Reply #81 on: February 20, 2001, 05:58:00 PM »
Sunday's race was the first NASCAR event I've watched in many years. I wrote off Dale's crash as minor, and was even a bit annoyed at the anouncer's concern. When I learned of Dale Earnhard's death the following morning, I was shocked, ashamed, and surprisingly saddened.

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« Reply #82 on: February 20, 2001, 09:17:00 PM »
Jack.....many times it's the innocent looking wreck that causes major injury.  The reason is that the driver takes 1 BIG hit.  Tony Stewart's ride looked serious and had the potential for serious injury....the difference was evry time his car rolled it lost energy and instead of 1 BIG hit like Earnhardt took it was many smaller hits.  Also I saw Dale's crash for the first time without the slow motion replay and it looks a hell of a lot worse at speed.

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« Reply #83 on: February 20, 2001, 11:07:00 PM »
You think he was wild watching those corners? try driving against him. Little bugger was cleaning our clocks on our own track before he could even drink beer.
  That said, even thinking about him makes me very very sad, to know personally what an incredible driver he was makes knowing he is dead even harder.

And, like I said, it is amazing how people are looking at making close dangerous racing safer- instead of opening it up and letting it be a race again. If you want them to all perform the same Nascar- make them drive the same f*cking car.

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« Reply #84 on: February 21, 2001, 09:12:00 AM »
I really don't know what to say.

It's just now sort of starting to sink in.

I've been rooting against Dale Earnhardt for years.  I liked the comment about rooting for "A.B.E.", Anybody But Earnhardt.

I've watched him spin more people out than Doan's has little pills.

One of my favorites was Jeremy Mayfield.  Spun him into the inside wall at, oh, I think it was Rockingham.

For some reason, the broadcasters thought it would be a great idea to tune into Jeremy's radio frequency as his car came to a stop on the infield wall.

"That MOTHERF*CKER!" was broadcast live across the nation.  My wild guess is that he was referring to you-know-who.

Then there's Labonte at Bristol.  No, the first time.  At least Terry got to get across the finish line first, albeit sideways...at least he got across the line first.

Then, more recently, it was into the wall with the finish line in sight, only this time Earnhardt crossed it first.  Some mumbling in the post-race from the mustache about "racin' hard", and stuff like that.  Boy, I was PO'd.  Couldn't believe it.  I kept waiting for Terry to go over to the No. 3 trailer with a tire iron.

But it gets worse than that.  Dale could also make you like him, almost feel sorry for him at times, and actually wind up making you root for him.  

I remember him trying to make it all the way through the Brickyard after tumbling at Talledega.  

He was racing with what, a broken collarbone and sternum?  Had electrical impulse things on his chest, trying to deaden the pain of the relatively flat corners.

Finally he had to get out.  The Man in Black just couldn't pull it off.  Knowing him, he was probably actually starting to lose consciousness from pain.

At first, he wouldn't talk to Jerry Punch.  After about five minutes he must have relented, because they cut to J.P. with Dale, and he said, "Champ, it must have been tough to get out of that car."

Earnhardt kind of paused.  And by God, you could tell that he was getting ready to cry.  He was getting choked up.  All he could say was, "Dad-gum it Jerry...racin's mah life..." and he turned and walked away.

I actually started getting choked up myself.  That bastard.

And who didn't secretly, deep-down inside, start rooting for him near the end of the '98 500?  

And who didn't get a little choked up as every single member of every single pit crew lined up to give him five as he drove towards victory lane?  I can't remember if it was before or after cutting the donuts on the infield...I just remember everyone coming out to congratulate someone they probably cursed on a regular basis, because for some silly reason, this "Intimidator" attracted respect from people like white on rice...even those that didn't particularly cheer him on.

I watched the 500 on Sunday, and spent the last 15 laps on my hands and knees, in front of the TV, screaming "Go Michael!  Stay low!  No, no, go high!  There!  Stay there!  Now go low!"  It was one of the most exciting race conclusions I had ever seen, probably because of the drama of Michael, Jr., and Sr. as the leading triumvrant.

When Dale hit the wall, I really didn't think a whole lot about it.  On TV, it looked like a good hit, but it didn't seem as head-on as it was in real life, and I knew he didn't hit on the driver's side, and I knew Kenny hadn't hit him on the driver's side.

I was absolutely drained from such a good race, and dozed off in my chair.

A little later my daughter came downstairs, and said that my father had called, and did I know that Dale Earnhardt was dead.

I think all I could say was, "What?  You've got to be kidding."

I started flipping through channels, and kept seeing the picture of Dale with "1951 - 2001" below it.

I was sure there was some mistake, and kept flipping the channels, thinking that somewhere, someone would get it right.  But it was not to be.  Dale Earnhardt, the soul of NASCAR, was dead.  Killed in the last lap of the Daytona 500, two weeks before his 50th birthday.

I think it's been said before in this thread, but just for those that don't know, Dale Earnhardt wasn't supposed to die.

In NASCAR, that's what I think kept a lot of people going.  "Well hell, if Dale can do it, I can do it."  He just flat-out, wasn't supposed to die.

And I'd like to amend the "loved him or hated him" statement.

I think more accurately, you either loved him, or you loved to hate him...whichever way you felt about him, he induced an extremely passionate response.  He was always there, a prescense, a force to be reckoned with, one way or the other.

And yes, he was the greatest NASCAR driver of all time.  No disrespect to anyone...there have been a lot, and of course Richard won 7 national championships.

But no one, no one ever, was as competitive as he was, in the time period that his career encompassed.

He could win in the old school, and he could win with the modern set-ups and cars in today's NASCAR, against kids half his age.  

It's going to take a while for me to sort all this out.  I'm sure it's going to be harder for all the teams that have to show up at Rockingham, start qualifying, and just go about their business of racing, and trying to win.

Or maybe it will be easier, because they can lose themselves in their work, and the times that they do look out at the track, and see a vision of a black car with a white number 3 on the side going high in the corners and swooping down to the inside of the track, they can think, "Yep.  This is the way Dale would have wanted it."

Goodbye, Dale.  I'm going to miss you.

Mk

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« Reply #85 on: February 21, 2001, 09:19:00 AM »
Good post MK, helped me understand you race fans perspective.

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« Reply #86 on: February 21, 2001, 10:12:00 AM »
Damn MK.. excellent post! <S>

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« Reply #87 on: February 21, 2001, 01:16:00 PM »
 
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I watched the 500 on Sunday, and spent the last 15 laps on my hands and knees, in front of the TV, screaming "Go Michael! Stay low! No, no, go high! There! Stay there! Now go low!" It was one of the most exciting race conclusions I had ever seen, probably because of the drama of Michael, Jr., and Sr. as the leading triumvrant.

I was doing the same thing, along with my 8 yr old daughter, and 5 and 6 yr old sons. I explained to them the situation, the man in the lead had never won a race before, and the man in the black car hired him because he believed in him, my kids were really into it, cheering for "dale" to "keep 'em blocked". We were thrilled at the finish, best finish I've seen in a long time. Turn on the TV a couple hours later and that "dale" guy is dead. Explaining that one to the kids was tough.

BTW, very nice post.

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« Reply #88 on: February 21, 2001, 01:55:00 PM »
Excellent post, Mk10.  It should be published somewhere.  

The Great Ones only come along once in a generation.  I still can't believe we won't see that black =3= car this weekend.  

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