Author Topic: Do you believe in "temporary insanity" plea? (Read 682 times)

Maverick · « **Reply #15 on:** August 30, 2006, 10:03:45 PM »

I believe there is a legal term that applies to this, it's vigilantism and simple vengeance. It's also a gross violation of the law and a lawyer should have better control overhimself than that.

Sorry I can't buy justifying this. I can sympathise with him but you cannot justify murder based on what is third hand information, definately not substantiated.

Meatwad · « **Reply #16 on:** August 30, 2006, 10:11:39 PM »

How would this stand up in court, would he represent himself?

Ought to take him out back and drop him like a fly.

Grayeagle · « **Reply #17 on:** August 30, 2006, 10:12:13 PM »

Law is the buffer to keep things like this from happening.

Hearsay isn't supposed to lead directly to dead guy.

A sound thrashing, maybe .. but this guy went a few large steps too far.

If his daughter had been killed .. and evidence proved this guy had done it.. then a slow, lingering death would be justified .. not a quick one..
..IMHO.

-GE

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 30, 2006, 10:15:16 PM »

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it's vigilantism and simple vengeance. It's also a gross violation of the law and a lawyer should have better control overhimself than that.

It's only a gross violation of the law because the people aren't to be trusted with justice.

We all must trust the government with justice, and only the government.

Anyway, from what it sounds like, it sounds like this guy was going downhill. And the punishment should be the same regardless if you did it premeditated or did it to keep the fish from laughing at the cars passing by. Death Penalty.

wetrat · « **Reply #19 on:** August 30, 2006, 10:31:55 PM »

totally unnecessary... if he was guilty, and was sent to prison for molesting a child, he'd suffer a fate far worse than dying at the end of a knife.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 30, 2006, 10:48:14 PM »

Bull****. There is nothing out there that is worse then death. Stop trying to convince yourself otherwise. It only makes you feel relieved on the outside that you think you're taking the moral high ground.

doobs · « **Reply #21 on:** August 30, 2006, 11:11:47 PM »

If anybody molested my child they would meet a fate worse than death.
but death being the final outcome.

and I'd make damn sure it was clean.

and buy my hand not some prisioner with some sort of rule of criminal conduct

Sandman · « **Reply #22 on:** August 30, 2006, 11:40:52 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
It's only a gross violation of the law because the people aren't to be trusted with justice.

We all must trust the government with justice, and only the government.

Damn straight... That whole bit about "of the people, by the people, for the people" was just so much bull****.

Pongo · « **Reply #23 on:** August 31, 2006, 12:41:29 AM »

how it should be.

moot · « **Reply #24 on:** August 31, 2006, 02:28:14 AM »

If you're not responsible for your emotions, then who is?

SMIDSY · « **Reply #25 on:** August 31, 2006, 02:38:02 AM »

growing up in the special education system, i have seen people literally go insane for the afternoon and be perfectly normal the next day. the mind is a complex thing and there is such a thing as temporary insanity. sometimes people get emotions that are impossible for them to control and they do something that they would never do if they were in their right mind (like a woman telling you that she will kill you and crushing your hand while she is giving birth.)

moot · « **Reply #26 on:** August 31, 2006, 03:07:50 AM »

At which point she's relieved of responsibility because she's surpassed by her own complexities, which aren't hers, but her "wrong" mind's..?

Nifty · « **Reply #27 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:03:18 AM »

The guy committed manslaughter. Doobs is saying he'd commit premeditated murder.

Individual citizens acting as judge, jury, and executioner outside of the legal system is vigilantism (spelling?), illegal, and flat out wrong.

Now, if a parent witnesses their child being harmed, that's a different story as the parent would honestly fear for their child's life.

fd ski · « **Reply #28 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:27:20 AM »

what if the guy wasn't guilty ? My 2 year old daughter was quite good at making weirdest **** up.....

Ripsnort · « **Reply #29 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:48:28 AM »

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Originally posted by fd ski
what if the guy wasn't guilty ? My 2 year old daughter was quite good at making weirdest **** up.....

Well, at the very least, another exposing drunkard is off the street!