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Offline lionpaw

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« on: September 03, 2006, 08:02:37 AM »
I've only been at this a week but really enjoy it. However, it's very frustrating. Could someone give me basic pointers on the following:

Best joystick to use

Best mode of attack in dogfight

What fighter is best for a new player

What basic controls/configurations should I have set at this point

Any other gems of wisdom you can think of

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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2006, 08:20:44 AM »
I can tell you from my current experience that the logitech stick is a pain.  I have to recalibrate it every time I enter the arena!  
You will find most people in here dont like the Logitech and I wish I had read this forum before i bought mine.

to fly---I think most people will reccomend one of the spitfires.(however I personally found more enjoyment by pciking the plane that I wanted to fly and learning it)

dont bother learning to land for a week or so, because you wont get the opportunity:lol

make an appointment with one of the training staff(or a good samaritan) for some one on one instruction! :aok

I also suggest learning with stall limiter disabled, you will have to turn it off eventualy anyway so may as well not learn any bad habits.

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Re: Advice needed for new pilot
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2006, 08:35:40 AM »
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Originally posted by lionpaw
I've only been at this a week but really enjoy it. However, it's very frustrating. Could someone give me basic pointers on the following:

Best joystick to use

Best mode of attack in dogfight

What fighter is best for a new player

What basic controls/configurations should I have set at this point

Any other gems of wisdom you can think of


Best joystick under $50 - Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 USB (They're out of production now, sadly. I found one on eBay for $20. If you can't find one your next best bet is a Saitek Evo. There's a lot of player opinion on joysticks but for my money I'd go with the two suggestions mentioned, and save your $$ for a full compliment of CH Products gear - Fighterstick, Throttle, Rudder peds.

Mode of attack - well, that depends...on a lot of criteria. Post a request for some training and take it from there.

Other gems and joystick set-up? Schatzi will be here in a minute as soon as she finished her strudel

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Re: Advice needed for new pilot
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2006, 09:12:01 AM »
Someone called me? Max?? :D And it was a ham sandwich, not a Strudel ;).



Best joystick to use


See above posts. You can also do a search for "joystick recommend" in this, the Hardware and Software and the General forums.

What you *need* on a stick is:

Hatswitch for views
Throttle lever
Rudder (twisty or rocker switch)
as many buttons as you can get


Best mode of attack in dogfight


Smart, planned and best with an advantage :). Seriously, thats an answer youll have to get with training. There are many many ways to attack and many many ways to blow an attack and die. Start digging around in the web for articles on fighting/flying. FBplmmr already posted a good start - Net Aces.


What fighter is best for a new player


I usually recommend a SpitMk8 or Mk9. They have a good overall performance and are forgiving in handling. But like already said - if you have a faible for another plane, theres no reason not to fly that one. Stick with one plane for the time being. Youll have time to get used to its limits, strenghts and weaknesses. You dont have to adapt to a new handling constantly.
The only thing id advise on plane choice is: dont choose something too early war/bad in performance. Youll have a big disadvantage of performance that will make it hard to judge if the move you made didnt work at all or if it was just the missing performance that killed you. Youd be bound to get frustrated fast, with no successes to show you when you did good.

On Sodas Aircraft Page you can find rundowns of almost all planes in the set.


What basic controls/configurations should I have set at this point


Joystick
Mouse (if you do not have a Joystick)
At Net Aces you can find a quick reference guide (one page for printing!) on default keymap. I have that on my desk... very handy.

Joystick config:

Fire primary, Fire Secondary, Look up view, WEP, flaps lower/raise are the very basics youll need on the stick. Start with those and add more (providing you have spare buttons) as you need them. The less you have to reach for the keyboard in a fight, the better.

Setting Views:

VERY important thing to do. A good vieweing system is the requirement for a good Situational Awareness (SA). And SA is 70% of the win in a fight. You need to be able to know whats going on around you constantly. Let me again refer you to Net Aces, for explanation on Views. In difference to what the article says though, i prefer to have my forward view on hat (=kp 8) set to an over-the-nose forward view - head position all to the left and up. To look forward up, i use look forward and look up at the same time.

Head positions: For each of the 18 views and each plane seperatly, you can adjust your head position for better visibility and save that. To do that, look back - then adjust view with arrow keys and page up/down until you can see around your headrest. When youre done, press F10 key to save. Do that for all views untill you have maximum visibility.


Any other gems of wisdom you can think of


Im not very wise, so im afraid ill have to pass up on that :).

Seriously: Keep doing what you already did. Strife to improve your skills. Ask questions. Read up on things. Get some quality training time - either with a member of the Traininer corps or with one of the many willing Vets of the game. And practice practice... did i mention practice?
« Last Edit: September 03, 2006, 09:15:32 AM by Schatzi »
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2006, 10:55:02 AM »
Best Joystick: Microsoft sidewinder precision pro, unfortunatley bill gates stopped making them but here is a link for a guy in georgia that has them brand new in the box.it's the best 1 IMHO because most new pilots get the first joystick they can find which is at wal-mart and for the same price they can get a non-spring mounted stick.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-MICROSOFT-SIDEWINDER-PRECISION-PRO-JOYSTICK-GAMES_W0QQitemZ9727075830QQihZ008QQcategoryZ3677QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Best Attack: Head On without firing guns


Best fighter for new pilots:Hands down the Spitfire MKv


Best config, elevator trim,flaps down key, and lot's of lookin around you and behind you at all times, even if your off-line get in the hang of lookin around you.


Best Gem of wisdom:  Have FUN it's a game!

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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2006, 12:36:22 PM »
Best mode of Attack is not head on. It is up high with an adv. but most people will call ya an alt monkey if you are up there. Head on no fire is more like a 1v1 duel style.

Best Fighter: People say spitfires but i say Yak9u puts you in some great habits. Such as learning to aim properly and fire in short bursts instead of spraying and praying like me:D . And if you an g:D et 2 or 3 kills in the Yak9u you cAN double that in any other plane. In addition it also teaches you to E conservation since it is fast and like to stay fast but it can turn well when low and slow with flaps and a lot of rudder/throttale control.
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What utter and compete BS, quite frankly I should kick you off this bbs for this post.

The real truth is you do not like the answer.

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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2006, 01:17:56 PM »
Spit5 is very much underpowered since the upgrade. And it has a very low ammo load, which makes it hard to get a kill or two at first.


Head-On pass (straight HO) is a quick way to die in the MA. I recommend searching this board for "merge tactics" or read the articles on this subject at net aces.
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2006, 06:26:06 PM »
Hey Lionpaw!!


and to quote 'welcome to your new addiction'.  On most of your questions I'm about as useful as a football bat but my opinion is if you can afford it go with CH gear.  It will set you back about $300 to $350 for the whole setup but it is worth it.  Smooth operation and heavy duty.  I've got the flightstick and the peddals and I'm in love with them :)

Good luck and if you ever see me in the TA feel free to fly with me and I'll be happy to play target for you

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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2006, 08:45:14 PM »
Why is it you just can't answer with your opinion or answers to his questions and yet you just attack what i wrote.Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it won't work.You think you can just post an answer instead of a attack?

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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2006, 09:05:22 PM »
huh?
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2006, 05:38:26 PM »
A head on attack will and can give your opponent an easy way to gain an advantage at the merge. That's the main reason why it's a bad merge tactic.
Some flight path seperation and a lead turn and the head-oner is already at a disadvantage.
Not to mention it's risky and may turn into a joust, not a dog fight.

And I don't recommned a Yak for an introductory plane. You have to learn to hit something before you learn ammo conservation.
Far too many, if not most, people on this Board post just to say something opposed to posting when they have something to say.

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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2006, 06:18:52 PM »
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Why is it you just can't answer with your opinion or answers to his questions and yet you just attack what i wrote.Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it won't work.You think you can just post an answer instead of a attack?


Todd,
I don't think it was an out right attack, you did mention  headon GUNSCOLD merge, in a perfect world this is what most combat fighting types would desire, but in the Main Arena it is not  the best way to approach......

it is the correct way for 1 vs 1 dueling arena approach/merge though.......

a good plane to  start out in is a spit 9, F6f-5,  A6m5,  and yes the p-38 for its counter rotating props..........38 will be a bit hard though learning to manage energy and dogfight effectively

also, the C202, Hurricanes(not the Mk1 ), and P51-D would be a good beginner's plane......

my theory has always been, fly the plane you like, and STICK with it until you know it the best you possibly can, then move on to the next plane and repeat........


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