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Offline Angus

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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2006, 10:17:25 AM »
As a sidenote here, there is a question.
Do you have an incident where US troops got killed by friendly fire from another nation? By brits for instance???
Either it is the selection of the news, or just reality but I recall nothing of the sort. And I go far back!

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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2006, 10:24:25 AM »
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Russia lost in Afganistan, 15-20000 men and half milion wounded, and achieved nothing after 10 years of bloody war.

I don't understand what's the American goal in Afganistan?
Were looking for Bin Laden , but if they  didn't find him in 5 years what for those troops still there?

Bush"s utopic ideas of building democracy in those radical islamic societies looks soo naiv ,
   Let them few more centuries to evolve from cavemen to homosapiens, maybe after try again

To let you sleep peacefully at night.  A terrorist on the run, no matter who that terrorist is, is better than a terrorist conspiring/acquiring/planning attacks on the free world.  Think of it as a "Neighborhood Watch" program at our expense.

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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2006, 10:46:30 AM »
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Originally posted by Angus
As a sidenote here, there is a question.
Do you have an incident where US troops got killed by friendly fire from another nation? By brits for instance???
Either it is the selection of the news, or just reality but I recall nothing of the sort. And I go far back!

:noid


i can only remember ff incidents involving airstikes. i guess only the us has airpower in afganistan, so if things like this happen it`ll be americans killing whoever..

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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2006, 10:48:31 AM »
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i guess only the us has airpower in afganistan, so if things like this happen it`ll be americans killing whoever..


Nope.. not just the US.

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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2006, 10:51:49 AM »
Hi ghi,

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Originally posted by ghi
Russia lost in Afganistan, 15-20000 men and half milion wounded, and achieved nothing after 10 years of bloody war.

    I don't understand what's the American goal in Afganistan?
Were looking for Bin Laden , but if they  didn't find him in 5 years what for those troops still there?

Bush"s utopic ideas of building democracy in those radical islamic societies looks soo naiv ,
   Let them few more centuries to evolve from cavemen to homosapiens, maybe after try again


The US situation in Afghanistan is rather one of "damned if you do, damned if you don't."

If the US withdraws from Afghanistan, the Taliban will come flooding back in from their safe-areas in Pakistan. They will wipe out what little existing infrastructure that has been established and then gradually tighten the noose on Kabul until the Kharzai government collapses. Once they have re-taken, Southern, Central, and Eastern Afghanistan, aside from returning the populace to the full-blown version of 7th century Islamic hell-on-earth the country will become a major center of Jihadi training for groups like Al Qaeda once again.

On the other hand, if the US stays in Afghanistan, the country will never be pacified. This is because the Taliban have a safe haven and endless supplies of fresh fighters just over the border in Pakistan. In order to pacify Afghanistan, you'd have to be able to eliminate the Wahabbi training and supply structure over the border - which our "allies" the Pakistanis would never tolerate. As it is, no substantial improvement in the life of the Afghanis is possible because as soon as you establish say a free medical clinic or a school for girls, the Taliban infilitrate overnight, slaughter the doctors/teachers and blow up the facility and then return. Their current "game" is caching their weapons since they know that the coalition cannot fire on an unarmed Afghani and picking them up for the operation and then dropping them literally as soon as they are done. So we will bleed soldiers and money in that country unless and until we change our overall strategy.

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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2006, 01:38:02 PM »
Never surrender.
Especially not to those who mostly use terror on the public as a weapon.
Those who target the public for the cause.

However, don't shoot everybody!
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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