What do you think?

[storch]

what all those guys said plus I would taunt you on 200 until I tired of it.  it's just a cartoon plane, you get another free one as soon as you die.

[Major Biggles]

the actual honour in this situation would not be to let you go, but for YOU to take the loss graciously. it's your fault, you died, and deserved to, the honour that is missing from this scene is your failure to accept that you got killed.

just thought i'd point that out. b*tching on the BBS about someone killing you in a combat sim, then comlaining about honour is well, past ironic or hippocritical

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Kuhn
I am sure my opponent did not make it back to base.
 

You´re really sure? There are a few players who discovered the secrets of smart fuel management. Especially the 262 is able to vastly extend its airborne duration & range by proper throttle control. I would not be surprised if your enemy did reach a friendly base.

And the other guys are right. Fuel management, SA, ACMs are all part of air combat. Don´t wtch your 6: you will get shot down. Run out of fuel: You will get shot down. Don´t maneuver good: You will get shot down.
You did not manage to kill your enemy in time, so you have to pay the price. This is not a duel arena. Red Icons are meant to kill you.

[Kuhn]

Dont take this to seriously poeple! Im just asking for opinions. Not fault or blame. Mr. Biggles seems to have a tender spot about this.  WELL DO YOU Mr. Biggles?

[Kuhn]

Originally posted by storch
what all those guys said plus I would taunt you on 200 until I tired of it.  it's just a cartoon plane, you get another free one as soon as you die.

I know you would:D

[Innominate]

Originally posted by Lusche
You´re really sure? There are a few players who discovered the secrets of smart fuel management. Especially the 262 is able to vastly extend its airborne duration & range by proper throttle control. I would not be surprised if your enemy did reach a friendly base.

Plus with the 262, altitude means everything.  If you were running on the deck at all while he was a couple thousand feed above you, (assuming equal fuel states) he could easily have saved several minues of fuel.  

Anyways, it was the same reaction that got the Richthofen and many other good pilots killed.  So it's one of those things you have to chalk up to human nature.

[Grits]

Originally posted by Kuhn
Its not the chase and down Im debating. If you both die or ditch, whats the point?

Well, I am not the one to ask since I dont care if I RTB or not. I'd not think twice about chasing someone all the way back to their base LONG after I was not going to have the fuel to RTB if there was even a remote chance I might kill them.

[Kuhn]

Lets not get off the question im asking. If you could not RTB just to get the kill would you do it? Remember I'm just asking! Don't play the ***** card with me!!!:D

[Kuhn]

Originally posted by Grits
Well, I am not the one to ask since I dont care if I RTB or not. I'd not think twice about chasing someone all the way back to their base LONG after I was not going to have the fuel to RTB if there was even a remote chance I might kill them.

That's the kinda answer I'm looking for. Short and sweet.

[MadSquirrel]

Just my two cents worth, but if you weren't watching your fuel gauge, what makes you think he was?  He might have got you landing then started to fly back to his base when things got really quiet in the cockpit.  That is until the swearing started.  

By the way, speaking for myself and myself alone, when I get a call that someone I am in combat with is bingo ammo or fuel, I have and do salute and watch them egress the area.  But if they turn back, all bets are off.  That is just what I do.  Don't really care for a hollow victory.  Letting them go just means I didn't die this time either.  But the person that is able to land might just extend that courtesy to me someday.  But if you had vulched me 10 times on the runway, I would have chased you into hells heart to prevent you from landing them.

But from the realistic point of view, you died because you were careless.  If he died, it was because he was careless.  I would be willing to bet he didn't know his fuel status either.  

LTARsqrl  <>

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by Kuhn
SO what do you all think?

I think you should stick to AvA.  In the MA you're fooling yourself to expect that someone would say "go ahead and see if you can land it."

- oldman

[Major Biggles]

Originally posted by Kuhn
Dont take this to seriously poeple! Im just asking for opinions. Not fault or blame. Mr. Biggles seems to have a tender spot about this.  WELL DO YOU Mr. Biggles?

actually i'm laughing at how you can come on here complaining about lack of honour, when infact you're the one without it. far from tender, i'm actually having a good laugh at this:lol

[Shuffler]

I agree with Biggles.


Your original question also took into account your assumptions of the other pilots fuel... so others answer with the same non chalance. Then you repost minimizing your question an removing all the fluff. Would I follow you to your base if I would run out of fuel... well... to an extent I would, not knowing you were running to base.. at first I'd think you were running because you realized you have met up with a far better pilot. Of course while watching my fuel, dar.... you know, basic situational awareness. Once I noted my fuel situation was not conducive of a full turn n burn fight I would have broke off any attempt at engagement to fight another day... of course I would leave enough fuel for any possible unplanned engagement at my home field should that possibly take place.

Que Sera Sera

[RTR]

Oldmans got it right. In the AVA I might  let you go. (repeat  ..might)  But..in the AVA it is much easier to let your opponent know you are bingo fuel / ammo etc.

In the MA...nope. Not on your life. Hope you have enough beer for me and Grits though:D

cheers,
RTR

[bkbandit]

Its funny i had a sceniro alittle similar today, a 262 was picking on one of my guys along with another f4u, my guy killed off the f4u so i jumped on the 262, he saw me too late and started to dive, i took out one of his engines and had him leaking gas all over. starts to extend, i checked the map and started goin to the nearest con base, get there and what do i see a 262 startin aproach, i came he tryed to evade and boom i rip a wing. Dude its a 262 and this guy was attackin my friendly bombers all day, i couldnt let him land.

But if i looked down at the guage knew i couldnt get back i prob wouldnt have went.