Author Topic: Let's say I break into your house (Read 1055 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 11, 2006, 08:40:48 AM »

A good example would be to change the story to....

You let your brother live in the house if he cleans it and makes dinner and mows the lawns and washes the cars and such..

He hires an illegal to do all that for fifty cents an hour and puts him up in the garage to live.

lazs

red26 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 11, 2006, 09:37:43 AM »

I would like to see a wall like the one that was in berlin be put up on both sides then we could put perahnas in the Rio Grande. And on top of all that since I read in here were two border patrol agents went to prison for trying to get a fuy that crossed the border they were given sespentions for chasing him and given prison time for shooting him when one of the officers had already tried to take him down the illegal won the battel wile his parner was on his way to help him out on foot as the guy niticed the officer running toarwd him he turned and actied like he had a gun so the officer shot at him and hit him. that officer is geting something like 20 yrs for shooting the illegal. The outher officer is getting like 15 for assulting him.
I think we need to put hired guns on the border. Just regular guys with guns payed well.

Yall can call me a tard if yall want to.

Goomba · « **Reply #17 on:** September 11, 2006, 12:27:58 PM »

Each and every living American citizen is a son or daughter of an immigrant family.

The difference between us and these criminals is...we (or our families) had the basic decency to ask permission first.

And (I'm proud to say) no handouts were required, just work. Had the same demands been made and met back then, we'd all be speaking Sicilian.

New legal citizens are the strength and lifeblood of this nation, to be welcomed with pride. Criminals are...well, criminals.

red26 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 11, 2006, 12:35:33 PM »

We are being invaded and Washington dosent even stop to think about it.

Reynolds · « **Reply #19 on:** September 11, 2006, 01:54:48 PM »

I say we solve this while satisfying our PC fetish. Put a sign up every 10 feet that says "This is provate property of the united states of america, and any tresspassors will be shot". Then when they sneak in, SHOOT THEM! They come into our country illegally, they do so at their own risk, and it should then be LEGAL for any US citizen to kill any illegal immigrant so long as he can prove they are illegal, and do so not in cold blood, but to protect our country (The intent can be proved by whether or not anything is taken from the dead alien, or whether the body is disturbed in any way other than it having been shot). Thats how I say we do it.

Elfie · « **Reply #20 on:** September 11, 2006, 02:25:50 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
I doubt that you can ever make an illegal proof border but it should be strengthened.

My solution remains that you simply arrest every employer... big and small and make mandatory jail time a part of every conviction.

If no employers will hire illgal aliens we will have no more illegal aliens.

lazs

Lazs.....if Mexicans all had decent paying jobs in Mexico and could provide for their families there......do you think they would be leaving their home country to immigrate to another one?

lazs2 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 11, 2006, 02:35:47 PM »

elfie... if they had the economy that would support that kind of standard of living there may even be some Americans sneaking across the border to work in mexico.

I doubt that they would be treated well... mexicans shoot people illegaly crossing their southern border.

But... who cares? There is nothing that we can do about their political system or economy and probly we shouldn't.

My solution involves the simple arrest of the criminals on our side of the border be they mexican or American.

And... it would work.

When you get mexicos politics and economy fixed we can talk about that then.

lazs

Elfie · « **Reply #22 on:** September 11, 2006, 03:05:36 PM »

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When you get mexicos politics and economy fixed we can talk about that then.

Their crappy economy is the root cause of them wanting to move here.

I agree that the employers hiring them are just as criminal as those sneaking across the border. I just dont agree that the employers are whats causing them to move here. Fix the crappy Mexican economy and your average Mexican will have no reason to pack up his family and move to another country.

I see the problem as partly ours (employers) and partly theirs (crappy economy), not just a one sided deal.

I dont think America should be the one to fix their economy though, we can help....I have no problems with us extending a helping hand, but it's their problem, not ours and Mexicans should be the ones to fix it.

Lye-El · « **Reply #23 on:** September 11, 2006, 03:39:33 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
I doubt that you can ever make an illegal proof border but it should be strengthened.

My solution remains that you simply arrest every employer... big and small and make mandatory jail time a part of every conviction.

If no employers will hire illgal aliens we will have no more illegal aliens.

lazs

I have to agree with Lazs. It would be much cheaper than hiring thousands more border patrol agents. After the fines the community service could be mowing grass and working on the corporate farms for a couple of months.

Elfie · « **Reply #24 on:** September 11, 2006, 03:51:01 PM »

I think mandatory jail time would go a long ways toward stopping employers from hiring illegals.

Dichotomy · « **Reply #25 on:** September 11, 2006, 04:05:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Shuckins
Increase the size of the border patrol by an order of magnitude.

Undoubtedly expensive, but should bring the problem under control.

It's kind of tough for a nation to maintain its security when its borders are like a sieve.

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lazs2 · « **Reply #26 on:** September 12, 2006, 09:27:03 AM »

elfie... you are overcomplicating.. it matters not what the economy there is..

If there are no jobs or benifiets here then they will not come and the missery will stop. they die trying to get here and they are treated worse than slaves in the 1700's were...

And... it is all the fault of the criminal....yes criminal...employers. Many politicians are just now beggining to see the truth in this.

Many states are moving to criminalize more the hiring and to cut off benifets for illegals.

It will work but... the democrats do not want to lose such a potential socialist/commie voting block so they work against it.

the democrats lost the working man so they have to create a new underclass to be dependant on them.

lazs

fd ski · « **Reply #27 on:** September 12, 2006, 11:07:09 AM »

lazs is right and some of you need to see a doctor...

JB88 · « **Reply #28 on:** September 12, 2006, 11:10:30 AM »

yep. it IS the employers. cut off the head.

i have been asking alot of questions lately about civil suits. would it be possible to approach it from that angle i wonder?

lukster · « **Reply #29 on:** September 12, 2006, 11:22:09 AM »

Unfortunately it's not just the democrats working against solving the problem. Too many businesses are profiting from this cheap labor making the republicans reluctant to act as well. I think both parties are trying to prevent it becoming a central issue come election time. It's up to the people who are fed up to make it an issue.

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Originally posted by lazs2
elfie... you are overcomplicating.. it matters not what the economy there is..

If there are no jobs or benifiets here then they will not come and the missery will stop. they die trying to get here and they are treated worse than slaves in the 1700's were...

And... it is all the fault of the criminal....yes criminal...employers. Many politicians are just now beggining to see the truth in this.

Many states are moving to criminalize more the hiring and to cut off benifets for illegals.

It will work but... the democrats do not want to lose such a potential socialist/commie voting block so they work against it.

the democrats lost the working man so they have to create a new underclass to be dependant on them.

lazs