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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2006, 09:56:12 AM »
Are you talking .22 or .22 magnum Halo?

The best .22 rifle I fired was a russian one not sure of the name.
It had a very comfortable grip and a very good sight.

I have a .22 Magnum Marlin, but the sight is so bad that it's useless without a scope. With a x4 scope it's quite ok and very good for sniping geese and such.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2006, 09:57:07 AM »
why not just buy a .22 plinker?  they are inexpensive enough.  while some folks claim that shooting .22 through their favored sidearms help with aim and muscle memory I find it to be just the opposite.

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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2006, 09:59:04 AM »
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Are you talking .22 or .22 magnum Halo?

The best .22 rifle I fired was a russian one not sure of the name.
It had a very comfortable grip and a very good sight.

I have a .22 Magnum Marlin, but the sight is so bad that it's useless without a scope. With a x4 scope it's quite ok and very good for sniping geese and such.
wow I have had my marlin 60 since the mid '70s and with the iron sights I can neuter a gnat at 50 paces.  was it dropped or something?

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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2006, 11:02:20 AM »
Hi Laz,

What, you mean you need to clean a Ruger .22? Now you tell me. :D  

I've never had any problems with my regular old early 70s make Ruger Mark 2 and that despite the fact that I generally treat it far worse than any of my other guns. I've had two jams caused by casings that got caught by the slide returning as they were ejecting, both cleared by pulling the slide back slightly and tipping them out, but aside from that no problems at all and I must have put a Bazillion rounds through it by now.

It may be you purchased a Lemon. My Mk 2 certainly gets my "long-suffering and proved faithful" award.

BTW - I do find the Bull Barrell models of the Ruger to be too heavy though, and not worth extra money to me. It may just be that I'm not a good enough shot for it to matter.
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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2006, 01:53:58 PM »
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wow I have had my marlin 60 since the mid '70s and with the iron sights I can neuter a gnat at 50 paces.  was it dropped or something?


Bad sight setup, that's all. Wide enough for error, - but the gun works perfectly well when I have the scope set up nicely.

100 Yards is enough for something about 2-3 inches in diameter with 100% accuracy.
200yards is still enough for a goose. Once had a good shot at 160 or so, hit the goose through the heart.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2006, 02:12:43 PM »
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why not just buy a .22 plinker?  they are inexpensive enough.  while some folks claim that shooting .22 through their favored sidearms help with aim and muscle memory I find it to be just the opposite.



I think if you shoot both it can help and hurt if you do not have the basics down. Its nice to shoot .22 out of the 1911 and with the marvel kit is more accurate than any $2000 and under 1911. I like it because in our goup we have .22 steel matches all the time.

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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2006, 02:22:07 PM »
BTW laz

I shot 50,000 rounds in little over a year with a new ruger 22/45. Your thoughts on the ruger are so off its almost crazy. I shot federal cheap red box $7.90 a brick and out of a brick their were around 3 ftf because of no power just primer. The ruger would eat it up for around 500 rounds then it needed a good cleaning. One day at the ranch i shot 2000 rounds and had 15 ftf 10 were because of the ammo. Also the ruger is more accurate than anybody on this forum will ever be. It takes some time the first time you field strip it but you learn and its not that bad at all.

If their is one thing i understand about shooting i would say that most .22 pistols are great guns. I have been looking at a sig trail side for a long time but its $ and really dont need another .22
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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2006, 02:34:14 PM »
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Bad sight setup, that's all. Wide enough for error, - but the gun works perfectly well when I have the scope set up nicely.

100 Yards is enough for something about 2-3 inches in diameter with 100% accuracy.
200yards is still enough for a goose. Once had a good shot at 160 or so, hit the goose through the heart.
bad sight set up?  how?  what model rifle?  I'm considering the marlin .17 and info like this may not be found in magazine articles.

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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2006, 03:07:24 PM »
Marlin 782
Could that be correct?
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2006, 03:21:46 PM »
marlin model 782 is a bolt action magazine fed .22 magnum alright but I've never shot one. do you find the rear sight to be the problem or just the entire sight set up?

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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2006, 04:49:32 PM »
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Are you talking .22 or .22 magnum Halo?


I'm thinking mostly .22 LR but left it open in case anyone wanted to mention a .22 Magnum.  

Since I don't hunt, and use heavier caliber for home defense, I don't seem to need a .22 Magnum.  If I ever get one it probably will be as part of the Ruger .22/.22 Magnum convertible.
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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2006, 05:09:33 AM »
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marlin model 782 is a bolt action magazine fed .22 magnum alright but I've never shot one. do you find the rear sight to be the problem or just the entire sight set up?


The setup I guess. It's too "wide". On a range a whole bird can be hiding behind the thickness of the front.

But the rifle shoots well, - once it's set up nicely with the scope. Took me about 50 test shots though ;)

Oh, and Halo, .22 magnum is much more fun than .22.

You can also get them lever operated.

However, I recall trying an automatic .22. That was fun allright, but the hitting power is not much.
Also tried automatic .22 with with a silencer. That is the perfect thing for sniping down ptarmigans. (grouse)
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2006, 07:25:24 AM »
I understand now!!! sir you must be an excellent shot.  are shotguns allowed in iceland?

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« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2006, 07:54:10 AM »
I'm a so-so shot, and out of training now IMHO.
Shotguns are allowed that is one barrel, 2 barrels, pump and auto with 4 shots. Rifles too all the way to 30 cal or so. Then the odd .22 single-shot handgun for putting out smaller animals (although you can drop a bull with them if you know how).
Handguns and automatic rifles are forbidden.
(The only thing allowed, or maybe not more is the auto .22 rifle (tube loaded) and .22 mag lever action)
In the country there are about 6 people for the gun and about 25 people per license. So, the average license holder has 4.
(I have 3, but always wanted a couple more).
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2006, 10:49:22 PM »
Google to ruger.com and look for model 1159 (sorry, I tried to link the page but my luck there is erratic at best) -- that's the new Ruger 10/22 Autoloading Rimfire Rifle, .22LR.  

Bought one today, fired a couple hundred rounds through it, and it is truly sweet.  It's the size that fits me best, shoots great, looks gorgeous, and I guess that's what favorite guns are all about.

Suggested retail price only $275, got it for $220, life is good.  Where else can you have so much fun for years at the least cost than with a good .22 plinker?  

My model has a totally smooth and comfortable beech stock and the jazzy open sights.  I was thinking about a nicer walnut stock, but that comes with three things I don't want: stock checkering, more traditional sights, and sling rings -- and for about $60 more.    

As I mentioned, I gave my Browning Semi-Automatic to my son along with a Ruger 10/22 carbine.  I really liked both guns, although I thought the earlier 10/22 carbine was too chunky, too fat in the stock.

The Browning Semi-Auto, a classic since WWI, is about the most perfect plinker imaginable, flawless.  But somehow I wanted a little more ooomph to it.  

Enter the new Ruger 10/22 Rifle.  It has a wonderfully new proportioned stock, excellent fiber optic front and rear sights with contrasting colors (red on front framed by green in back), and at 38.5 inches and five pounds suits me just fine.  

I prefer the loading ease of a tubular like the Browning Semi-Auto or Marlin 60DL, but the Ruger's rotary 10-round magazine has its advantages, e.g., bought a couple extras so easy to have 30 rounds in case I'm attacked by a herd of Monty Python super rabbits.  

In Virginia, can even buy 25- or 50-round magazines for the Ruger if you want (no, they're not rotary inside the stock).  But 10 rounds already fly through the Ruger too quickly for frugality, so I'll stick with the rotaries.

What first caught my eye was the Compact version (Model 1168) at only 34 inches long and four pounds.  It is not advertised as a youth gun, but maybe it should be.  The stock was just too short for me -- no fun shooting all hunched up.  

Reminds me of the early M-16s that felt like some weird metal toy gun  compared to the comfortable M-1 carbine.  

I wish the Ruger 10/22 Rifle had bolt-open after the last shot, and I wish its bolt lock were more intuitive instead of being back to lock bolt open and up to close bolt.  This reminds me of the Sig pistol challenges trying to figure out some of its mechanism.  

Also, the manual should include all specifications.  Don't know why some manufacturers don't put those in when all owners want to have the max info available about their guns, including the basics like length and weight, all the stuff that is on the inside pages of the internet site.  

The Ruger 22 is one of the world's most adaptable guns with all sorts of options offered through after market sources.  I'll leave mine mostly as it is, although I did buy two Ruger transparent 10-round magazines.  Cool to see how the shells look in the rotary cylinder.  

Oh, and another thing: manufacturers should admit any serious extra requirement up front in all ads, even in the fine print, instead of surprising  purchasers in the manual after they bought the gun.  For example, this manual includes the 10/22 Carbine, 10/22 Rifle, and 10/17 Rifle.  

The 10/22 includes the 10/22 Magnum.  On page 14 is a warning not to use "some types of .22 Magnum cartridges that have blunt-nose or sharp-shoulder bullets which can interfere with smooth and reliable feeding ...."

On page 15 is a warning not to use Stinger ammo that "can stick in the tighter chambers of target rifles, including the Ruger 10/22 Target Rifle (I don't know what this is, but it apparently is not the regular 10/22 Rifle I bought)...."

On page 18 is a warning for the Magnum rifle that on page 26 is extended to the 10/17 as well:  "Never fire more than 50 shots without scrupulously cleaning the chamber....An excess of dirt, powder residue, or oil in the chamber will cause malfunctions and may result in potentially dangerous cartridge case ruptures and release of hot gasses and case fragments when firing."

I don't know about you, but I'm not buying any gun whose chamber has to be scrupulously cleaned every 50 rounds.  

Presumably potential buyers of 10/22 Magnum or 10/17 are somehow informed of this serious requirement BEFORE purchase.

This is a lot of information, but I think it's the kind of stuff all gun owners need to be aware of.  

Still haven't found a plinking handgun I like better than my Browning Buck Mark.  The store owner explained to me today that .22 double-action revolvers are particularly difficult to manufacture because of something about the delicacy of the way the .22 rimfire mechanism works.  

Thanks again for the excellent inputs about your favorite .22 plinkers.  Keep the thread going from time to time as you develop more thoughts about plinkers to share.  .22 plinkers is one of those rare fun activities available to most everyone at reasonable cost and effort.
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