Author Topic: Fears of revenge attacks on stingrays over Irwin death (Read 1386 times)

Reynolds · « **Reply #45 on:** September 14, 2006, 06:34:09 AM »

I think he wasnt taking risks simply because he knew something might happen, and chances are he was prepared for it. There were porbably emergency techs., anti-venom and everything else standing by, we just didnt see them. And as for getting close to animals, ive got withing 6 inches of a shark. I have PET a white-tip reef shark, and woke it up (accidentally) but it wasnt a risk because the chances of it bitting were nonexistant. It was docile, and it let me stay right there for a long time, and even went back to sleep before I got bored with it. He knew what he was doing. He knew the chances, and he knew how to avoid them. This was just one freak thing. And for those of you who dont beleive me on the medical technicians, weve seen him get bit by some real poisonous stuff before. Dont you wonder why he didnt die? Soon as they cut the camera he probably got rushed by doc.s and anti-venom. He just couldnt survive this becuase DER it got him in the heart. Theres no antivenom for that.

Gunthr · « **Reply #46 on:** September 14, 2006, 07:30:17 AM »

Personally, I love every wildlife guy that ever had a show.

Cousteau was the greatest in my opinion, but I was always a fan of even guys like old Marlin Perkins on Mutual of Omaha Wild Kingdom - and that old dude really had some staged wrestling fights with lions and huge crocs that you just knew were tranqued and probably senile with thier teeth pulled out, it was almost funny, but still, you learned a lot watching.

There was a really cool wildlife show a few years back that I forgot the name of, but it was actually more entertaining than Irwin's show. It had a gnarly, skinny old Aussie guy - can't remember his name, he was always eating wierd stuff in the outback with his incredibaly dirty hands and fingernails, they sometimes showed him walking around in his underpants bathing in streams. He was always getting bitten, stung or poisoned by something, but it didn't seem to phase him. Could anybody tell me the name of that guy or name of the show?

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #47 on:** September 14, 2006, 07:31:32 AM »

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Originally posted by eagl
Er dred... I hope you're not aiming that at me, since my point was that people getting all weirded out over a guy stuffing his thumb up a gator's bum on tv is pretty stupid.

Cousteau always has been one of my personal heroes. He lived and breathed science, even managing to do real research throughout WWII within his military role, and he did more to advance oceanographic science than any dozen of today's modern politically correct committee driven budget obsessed "researchers".

I was pointing out that molesting (and harpooning, exploding, etc) animals is pretty much standard for wildlife research and it's pretty stupid and emotionally reactionary to try to claim that Irwin's work was somehow lessened by how he interacted with the animals. He could have been quietly blowing them up off camera and getting a lot of other valid research done, but instead he did his thing on TV. Big deal. People are jealous of how he had fun doing his job and they're trying to degrade his work by some BS remarks about how he just went around molesting animals... Heck, if he was a chef we'd get to watch him dive, harpoon that stingray, haul it to the surface, then cook and eat it

Wasnt directed at you specificaly, or even really as a dig. But rather a statement and observation on a theme that seemed to be going on here started with Mash and Mavs interaction and progressed from there.

We see these types of comparisons allt he time no the boards.
We compare ourselves to history, Yet we do not take into account the standards of that time
Yet we compare people in history to us and we try to hold them to our standards.

and you can pick just about any place in history and do that. Pick a man who people consider "great" and someone now will apply todays standards and say" ahhh you mean the same person who did this"

TR was a great naturalist and conservationalist in his time. one of the formost in America in fact.

But someone from today or even Cousteau time would probably say, "yea but"
Just as someone from today would say "yea but" about Cousteaus methods
and as someone 30 years from now will say "yea but" about Irwin

Gunthr · « **Reply #48 on:** September 14, 2006, 08:02:22 AM »

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About as intelligent as "The Long War". - Funkypants

Take a breather from the blogs, you are becoming obsessed.... And btw, Siegfried and Roy are not really my idea of naturalists, although they certainly are liberal, and they certainly took risks with the cats

storch · « **Reply #49 on:** September 14, 2006, 08:34:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunthr
Take a breather from the blogs, you are becoming obsessed.... And btw, Siegfried and Roy are not really my idea of naturalists, although they certainly are liberal, and they certainly took risks with the cats

pfft not to mention they had a tiger act too!

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #50 on:** September 14, 2006, 02:24:53 PM »

Hell anyone that goes into the sea is taking a risk. I think the guys frm ******* were the real idiots, or any other person trying to jump on the back of a 14 foot salt water croc w/o proper training is a fool.

Too bad about his death, he was entertaining.

Bluedog · « **Reply #51 on:** September 14, 2006, 07:58:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunthr
Personally, I love every wildlife guy that ever had a show.

Cousteau was the greatest in my opinion, but I was always a fan of even guys like old Marlin Perkins on Mutual of Omaha Wild Kingdom - and that old dude really had some staged wrestling fights with lions and huge crocs that you just knew were tranqued and probably senile with thier teeth pulled out, it was almost funny, but still, you learned a lot watching.

There was a really cool wildlife show a few years back that I forgot the name of, but it was actually more entertaining than Irwin's show. It had a gnarly, skinny old Aussie guy - can't remember his name, he was always eating wierd stuff in the outback with his incredibaly dirty hands and fingernails, they sometimes showed him walking around in his underpants bathing in streams. He was always getting bitten, stung or poisoned by something, but it didn't seem to phase him. Could anybody tell me the name of that guy or name of the show?

Would it be Alby Mangels World Safari series Gunthr?

Or perhaps Les Hiddens The Bush Tucker man ?

Thats the problem with Aus....too many gnarly old geezers getting around the bush in their underclackers harrassing dangerous animals

JB88 · « **Reply #52 on:** September 14, 2006, 08:07:58 PM »

nobody beats marlin perkins. nobody.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #53 on:** September 14, 2006, 08:17:42 PM »

Used to watch his Mutual of Omaha presents, every Sunday when I was a kid.

bj229r · « **Reply #54 on:** September 16, 2006, 09:50:33 AM »

Guess these tour businesses are gonna have some problems

eagl · « **Reply #55 on:** September 16, 2006, 09:56:52 AM »

Ahhahahahaha those guys are all wearing inflatable life preservers... That's so funny. The event company isn't worried about them getting stung, they're worried about them drowning in 3 ft of water

That's such an indictment of society today... Pretty clear evidence of everything that is wrong with us today.

storch · « **Reply #56 on:** September 16, 2006, 01:34:16 PM »

lol a pasty people holiday resort

bj229r · « **Reply #57 on:** September 16, 2006, 02:12:11 PM »

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lol a pasty people holiday resort

Shallow area off Grand Caymen from cruise we took last winter...were like 4-5 boats out there. Wifey and crumbcruncher are in there somewhere---they actually TRY to get ya to PET the stingrays:rofl ----very smooth feel, seemingly gentle creatures (of course, knowing that these people bring food every day doesnt hurt)