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Offline Sundowner

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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2006, 06:50:16 PM »
What blows me away is the rational given in the quotes of Wynne:

"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne.

Huh?

Wouldnt "wartime situation" = against the enemy?

So, if we're not willing to use it on our citizens we shouldnt be willing to use it against our enemies?

Since when does that logic work?


"(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."

Dang, wouldnt want to be vilified in the world press.

Justification of use against US citizens to avoid the danger of vilification in the world press.

Theres a signpost up ahead...you have just entered The Twilight Zone.

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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2006, 06:52:27 PM »
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I have an idea, why dont we test these non-lethal weapons on this Air Force general?


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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2006, 06:58:23 PM »
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Sooo many people forget that the US military is completely leashed by civilian leadership...  The right to bear arms isn't in there to protect citizens from OTHER CITIZENS.

For further clarification, re-read the first paragraph of the declaration of independence.


I agree eagl. Thats what it says.

However I wonder how well traditional firearms hold up against military heat rays.

Can I get one of these at my local sporting goods store?

Is there a waiting period?

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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2006, 07:12:21 PM »
srry dude...when anarchists and lawless people riot (which IS WHAT HAPPENENED at WTO in Seattle) I say zap em with the non lethal stuff.  Especially if it helps further our own non lethal weapons programs :)

People who dont obey the law are not welcome in my society.  sorry man if that includes you :D
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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2006, 07:39:18 PM »
what was the name of that old helicopter movie. Blue Thunder I think. attack copter made for crowd controll. The military brass tried to stir up crap in the LA slums so the could test it.
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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2006, 02:02:00 AM »
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srry dude...when anarchists and lawless people riot (which IS WHAT HAPPENENED at WTO in Seattle) I say zap em with the non lethal stuff.


Why should the military be allowed to *test* weapons on any of our citizens?

If that AF General wants to know that badly how well they work or dont work......the dude can go stand in a corner while the rest of us take turns zapping HIM.
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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2006, 09:21:21 AM »
whitehawk.... I have no idea of what you are talking about.  please explain.

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« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2006, 09:58:45 AM »
"That's why I am spearheading the ten million dollar class action suit against Mr. Johnson and his irresponsible selling of a product he didn't even test on prisoners."
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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2006, 10:23:52 AM »
This is why you don't mix the Military with Political Correctness.  The military is there to kill people and blow things up.  You don't unleash the military unless you need the above to happen.  If you get to the point where you must unleash new weapons then you have to accept the fact that it is of paramount importance that you succeed or die.

Experiment on the people who put you in that position.
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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2006, 10:47:14 AM »
Any of you have considered that the citizens would be VOLUNTEERS?

I dont think they'll just pick the next random mob that pops up and turn the zapper on.
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« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2006, 11:02:10 AM »
You should've read the article before posing that question.
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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2006, 11:03:25 AM »
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srry dude...when anarchists and lawless people riot (which IS WHAT HAPPENENED at WTO in Seattle) I say zap em with the non lethal stuff.  Especially if it helps further our own non lethal weapons programs :)

People who dont obey the law are not welcome in my society.  sorry man if that includes you :D


No one truly obeys the law in the US. They're merely guidelines anyway.

Some lady got killed in Boston, 2004, by a non-lethal weapon. Minding her own business standing in a doorway, shot in the eye by a rubber bullet.

I say we go to Darfur and test it on the rioting crowds there. It's a target-rich environ, and virtually no international press since no one cares what goes on over there anyway.

Using this on Americans is insane...but this DID come from an Airforce general...:confused:

Move along, people...move along...
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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2006, 11:04:26 AM »
Who are the ****nuts that we need to write to? Somebody needs to remind them who their commanders are.
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« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2006, 04:42:29 PM »
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Originally posted by Sundowner
What blows me away is the rational given in the quotes of Wynne:

"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne.

Huh?

Wouldnt "wartime situation" = against the enemy?

So, if we're not willing to use it on our citizens we shouldnt be willing to use it against our enemies?

Since when does that logic work?


Dang, wouldnt want to be vilified in the world press.

Justification of use against US citizens to avoid the danger of vilification in the world press.

Theres a signpost up ahead...you have just entered The Twilight Zone.

Regards
Sun


so according to his logic We can expect to see landmines, claymores. Artillary and APaches being used on our own citizens.
And the next time we see an OJ type chase we can fully expect it to end via Hellfire or TOW missle?

Or because we arentt willing ot use these things on our own citizens we wont be using them in Wartime either?

World press. That is why we have so many problems. We worry too damn much about being vilified by the world press
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« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2006, 04:44:17 PM »
BTW I vote that instead of testing these things out on OUR Ciizens. We instead test it out on Illegal immigrants at the borders,
And Iraqies:)
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