Arena format change

[rshubert]

Originally posted by doobs
Met the Man far from arrogant, drunk yes arrogant no.

It's funny how two people can meet the same person and get a completely different opinion of him.

I still say "arrogant", it's an occupational standard in the software business.

[detch01]

Originally posted by KaK3
If  600 people in one arena isnt an "option" for the server any longer, ..get a new server? I havn't found any degredation to game play with 600 people in one arena, unless there are more than 30 or so players in a furball, then  gameplay quality isn't an option, so I just go somewhere else in the arena where the numbers are more manageable, but with the new set up, thereisn't anyewhere else to go because the numbers are so low and everyone gravitates to where the action is so we Still have poor game quality and FR., so how has this made  it better.

Dunno about you Kak3 but I found an extra 30% or so  in frame rates and was able to up my screen resolution 1024x768 to 1280x960 and texture size from 256 to 512 and still see a moderate frame rate increase. Fights weren't hard to find either, I managed to get into a couple of really fun 1v1's, a couple of me vs a flock and a couple of massive furballs (all in the EWA/MWA). I took a quick peek in each of the two LWA's, saw nothing but MA standard game-play and ch200 "banter" before I logged off tonight and decided that I'll give those a miss for awhile.
But that's just what I saw.


asw

[lagger86]

Originally posted by Amigo
Change we must?  We pay the bills every month.  The customers ALWAYS have the power, don't forget that.

I, just like the people that applaud the arena change, want to fly aircraft that are appropriate for the time period that those aircraft were used.  I don't want to be raped in my beloved P40b by an LA7, pretending I'm re-living the heroism of the Flying Tigers in China just to have my little fantasy destroyed by a late war dominator.  It's not fair, it's not historical, and it's not realistic.  I love the idea of time-period segregation.  I just think this is an astonishingly bad attempt at such.

Historical era segregation of aircraft can be accomplished without segregating the COMMUNITY of AH pilots onto different servers.  Does nobody get this?

My squad found eachother, and we had a blast(as usual). I had fun in the early and late war arenas, there really isn't that much differance...just the planes, not the people that fly em. Yeah change sucks when you don't know it's coming, but please give it a chance, I have had better fights tonight than I ever had in the MA....well maybe not that much better, but more fun, because I wasn't defending against much better planes in my not much better plane.. The fact is, I think this will work in the long run(I do want the old MA back though) Yeah I've been drinkin.

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by 4510
If you have to have an incentive... then you are trying to create a desire that doesn't exist.

If the idea appeals to the customer base, then the customer base will support it.  If they don't support it... the idea was a Turkey.

Put the limits on all arenas up around 600 and see where the customers go.  

Then you will know what the customer base wants... not what someone supposes they want.

 I think you are missing the point..they dont actually want you to choose...with the caps...they are choosing for us. Plain and simple...they dont want is ALL in one arena...this i understand...but why the hell should we be forced to fly a particular planeset if that other arena (the one with the planes we like) is full?

[KaK3]

Originally posted by detch01
Dunno about you Kak3 but I found an extra 30% or so  in frame rates and was able to up my screen resolution 1024x768 to 1280x960 and texture size from 256 to 512 and still see a moderate frame rate increase. Fights weren't hard to find either, I managed to get into a couple of really fun 1v1's, a couple of me vs a flock and a couple of massive furballs (all in the EWA/MWA). I took a quick peek in each of the two LWA's, saw nothing but MA standard game-play and ch200 "banter" before I logged off tonight and decided that I'll give those a miss for awhile.
But that's just what I saw.


asw

I am happy for anyone who has a better lot in life, wether playing games or in RL. I have my Res to  1280x960 texture 512 and get 44-70 FR , nothing has changed from old MA, including UFO's when in a massive furball, but now I couldn't  go somewhere else to find a mid size furball where game play quality isnt compromised  beacuse the arena only had enough players for 2  huge furballs, one on each country front, so I was forced to fly in a jerky mega furball. Evenwhen we had 600 player main arena I was always able to find 1v1's or 1v3or more( the kind I like with me being the 1)
Bring back the old MA, keep the 4  new ones and let the community decide where to play

[Schutt]

I love the new setup... and while some say this is against multiplayer gaming i dont think so, i think the player base will grow and soon we have all four arenas filled up with a lot of people.

[RTSigma]

This whole thing isn't permanent yet.

I like the whole set up though, I love the early war arena since it levels the playing field for those who want to fly early warplanes without fear of a performance-hog plane tearing them up. It was an absolute blast flying Zeros against F4Fs, Spit V's against some 109E's or P-38Gs and such.


My framerates are great too!

[KaK3]

Originally posted by Schutt
I love the new setup... and while some say this is against multiplayer gaming i dont think so, i think the player base will grow and soon we have all four arenas filled up with a lot of people.

 

 If this happens,  HT is a genius and I will eat my whiny  words, and all will be well in time space continuem.
 I don't see how we will get more than 700 players, if half of the people that say they are gonna pay/play somewhere else do so.

[KaK3]

The number of MA's isn't a problem for HT, so why not bring back the Old MA, keep the 4 new ones, and let the community decide which one to fly in, I will bet $100 that the Old M.A. has %75 or more of the total players, even if you put it ant the bottom of the List of MA's
( I'll only pay the $100  oncet if I lose though, so HT, take my bet please)

[ramzey]

are you saying 75% of AH players have no skill at all?

[ASA335]

OK, I've flown in early arena a couple of times now in a P-40E.

I'll agree that the "caps" need to be higher, that maybe four arenas is probably one too many (should probably combine the two late arenas into one), and that there needs to be a better way for squads to locate/contact each other (though I recall that HT said something about they were working on this); but

I had only flown in the previous MA twice (got clobbered early both times in six flights), so I avoided it (hoping to come back when I had more experience to take advantage of the better planes), and I'll tell you this - as a new flyer I had a h*** of a lot more fun these two times in the early arena than I had had in the MA. I not only stayed alive longer, I was able to land with my first four victories ever - and for me, a new flyer, that was extremely satisfying  (oh, I did die twice before I was able to achieve this success , and yes I know I recieved those victories through the efforts of others [I salute you, whoever you are] - but it felt so good).

I'll for now stick with "give it time". I expect that HT will tweak it in a couple of weeks and answer many (but not all) of the complaints.

In Pursuit,

[Raider179]

It's terrible. 200 people max? that's only 66 a side if evenly balanced. Huge Missions are gone. No more huge bomber and escort runs. I just am utterly amazed that HTC would do this.  I could see adding an early war arena, but the Cap limits on these arena's are going to kill this game.  How you didn't ask the community about this change is beyond me....

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by KaK3
If this happens,  HT is a genius and I will eat my whiny  words, and all will be well in time space continuem.
 I don't see how we will get more than 700 players, if half of the people that say they are gonna pay/play somewhere else do so.

Well...the average life span of the Online gammer will also dictate turnover rate...so there is a built in apex of sorts.  I happen to think its is much lower than 700+ players.  That isnt to say less than 700 subscriptions.

[x0847Marine]

There are times, sure, the 4 arenas should have enough players. After say 10:00 - 11:00PM PST, there were 5 or 6 dudes trying to defend an entire map against 30+, but in another arena those same dudes enjoy the big majority.

I like the idea, but if the arenas are not full enough to have fun like they are right this very minute, oh well I suppose. Americas Army & BF2 are still fun.

Those who proclaim they're going to un subscribe are fooling themselves, after 24 hours of no AH you'll be on the free trial "just to check it out", after a few fun twists you'll curse the new set up and call HT begging for you old name back.

[VgasX]

it supposed to be a discussion and notice, not just bill us for fresh pizza and deliver cold mashed potatoes perfectly put!
Someone mentioned the best furbal ever! That’s it we have created four furball maps. This sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok well I must admit I enjoyed early war it did provide good furballs. Now should we change the whole game to furball arenas with old planes and an arena with new planes? ~~The Unforgiven~~ have Pony pilots and I like to fly F4F but I can't because two different arena's. What was wrong with the MA too many players make it unstable? I suggest we add early war arena and keep the MA the same. I do believe early war arena will pull a good amount of players there to help stabilize MA.