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Offline Spatula

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« Reply #510 on: September 14, 2006, 03:56:10 AM »
Just logged in, and exactly what i suspected is true:
LateWar 1: 7 people
LateWar 2: 2 people
MidWar  9: people.
EarlyWar 50 odd people.

Now, when you divide each arena by the 3 countries, all but the Early war arena is just a waste of time - may as well just host a H2H room for free.

Why dont i go Early war?? Seems everyone else is. Because i like to fly P51s, always have, always will. I really dont like to fly too much else.

With this set up, i basically can no longer fly the aircraft i want to AND find someone to fight.

Logged off in total disillisionment for the first time EVER.

Something has to be done...
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« Reply #511 on: September 14, 2006, 03:57:44 AM »
it IS 4am.

Plus I think its best if you don't make threads and reply to Pyro's original stickied thread.

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« Reply #512 on: September 14, 2006, 03:59:06 AM »
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it IS 4am.


There are other parts in the world except for the US...

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Plus I think its best if you don't make threads and reply to Pyro's original stickied thread.


I have, making my point clearer.
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« Reply #513 on: September 14, 2006, 04:15:30 AM »
I think that all this *****ing is a little over-the-top as it is just the first day of the change.... Obviously there will be teething issues with caps and perks.

I would reply in the other thread... but it's such a mess that there's no point with it.

I would consider this a thread for those who are in off-peak time zones.

I am yet to play with this new set-up as I'm working a 12 hour shift today, so I've been watching this unfold here at work.

From what I've gathered, my only gripes are as follows:

-The cap limits will have an impact on missions, which are great fun.

-The segregation will have a serious impact on those who are in countries like Australia and NZ like myself and Spatula.... I fear we may have to say good-bye to missions due to the lower patronage at our ours of play.

I like this game but I don't want to have to play at ridiculous hours of the day or times when I have to work.

-The Perk price of the 190A-5 in the EA...

Obviously the perk and cap issues will need some teething, so that's not an urgent problem.

My only real concern here is the impact on non-peak players.



[edit]  Oh, I also have concerns about the 3 countries thing... perhaps merging people to two would be better for balance's sake.


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« Reply #514 on: September 14, 2006, 04:22:19 AM »
The average medium-low number of players (between 100 and 300) during my euro time play now will be divided in 3, too bad  .... Is this better than a classic rollin plane set in a single Main? Hmmmm ... :huh
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« Reply #515 on: September 14, 2006, 04:27:21 AM »
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Just logged in, and exactly what i suspected is true:
LateWar 1: 7 people
LateWar 2: 2 people
MidWar  9: people.
EarlyWar 50 odd people.

Now, when you divide each arena by the 3 countries, all but the Early war arena is just a waste of time - may as well just host a H2H room for free.

Why dont i go Early war?? Seems everyone else is. Because i like to fly P51s, always have, always will. I really dont like to fly too much else.

With this set up, i basically can no longer fly the aircraft i want to AND find someone to fight.

Logged off in total disillisionment for the first time EVER.

Something has to be done...


I'm going to give it a chance.

Look on the bright side, at least we don't have to chase La7s any more.



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« Reply #516 on: September 14, 2006, 04:28:11 AM »
I can't wrap my head around this decision.  Wouldn't CT of helped take pressure off the MA?  What is at all appealing about fighting in thinned out arenas?  This game is fun because of the big numbers.  If I wanted to fly around with me and myself, I would fly in AvA or go back to WB.  Pay attention and believe me when I say I genuinely think this is a very bad idea and I may end up canceling my account because of it.
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« Reply #517 on: September 14, 2006, 04:31:42 AM »
I totally agree, I'm 100% willing to give it a chance and I'm actually looking forward to doing so!

Not having to deal with La queens Niki dweebs will be good. I do like my 109 G14....but early war sounds good.

I was just getting out a couple of time-zone concerns.
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« Reply #518 on: September 14, 2006, 04:38:46 AM »
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Im pleased as well, but I understand alot of peoples hesitation and frustration.

Just let some time pass and I think most everyone will settle in.


Yes, I'll second these comments.

I've always liked RPS since my WB days but appreciate it's not everyone's cup of tea.

Like chondo says numbers could be an issue, but maybe new format will increase subscribers.  I can't believe HT made a big change like this without some market research.

Interesting that most heavily populated arena (at least when I was on) was early war.

Regards.:)
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« Reply #519 on: September 14, 2006, 04:40:08 AM »
Change will do you good. :aok

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« Reply #520 on: September 14, 2006, 04:40:52 AM »
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That is the history of every significant change(and some insignificant) in AH.  Good thing we're used to it. :)


could we maybe to a public poll next week to see what the final outcome will be..... or are you keeping this no mater what?
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« Reply #521 on: September 14, 2006, 04:52:30 AM »
im not saying demolish the idea, i enjoy my time in the late war arena, i seem to stay alive alot longer in my 51d, and there was almost 200 people in it. but that still wasnt enough, by cutting out a few arenas we could see a boost to a more healthy number in the remaining arenas which i think is the only thing lacking at this moment

im willing to give it a shot, and i have told others to do the same on 200 and country, just needs fine tuning, definately a time HTC should be capitolising on their mature player-base for their opinions and critique

so lets not dissapoint, and not turn this into a mmo forum :aok

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« Reply #522 on: September 14, 2006, 04:56:19 AM »
From what can be gleamed from Pyros writeup, I doubt this will be changed since they've been waiting to do it for some time.  

What if we had the normal MA with a rolling planeset arena as opposed to the multi-arena squad destroyer we have now?  I'd imagine an arena with a rolling planeset would be appealing and serve the same goal of spreading out the player load.
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« Reply #523 on: September 14, 2006, 04:57:55 AM »
I have no problem with the concept. It just the time zones and the limited numbers of people at those times which make the parts of the game i like, untenable. We got 4 new MAs, with 3 countries per side = 12 seperate camps. Divide the all ready low patronage during the off hours by 12 and you'll start to have problems.
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« Reply #524 on: September 14, 2006, 05:01:27 AM »
instead of having 4 arena's why not have 2. 1 arena like you all had it before and other arena roll setting arena. and what i mean by roll setting is have early war at the beg. of the TOD and add new planes as the tod goes on. atleast it would be better than having four arena's and trying to find ur squad mates and what not. cuase what u got going now is some none sence, you should have 1 arena to where you can fly whatever you want. And the other 1 roll setting or do ur 4 arena's. in the early war arena it was reseted to the same dam map, plus it became boring now. i use to fly warbirds for 8.5 years and found out about AH and like'd it because it was more challenging, now its boring sence i have to log out of 1 arena just to fly different planes in different earas of the war, wtf. But i understand the you guys want a change, thats cool and all, but atleast have 1 arena like you had before the change. my personal note i cant stand the change, if anything if u did do a change like this and had it stick, do a roll setting, to where the 1st week we get early war planes/gv's, 2nd week some early mid war planes/gv's, 3rd week late mid planes/gv's and 4th week late war plane/gv's. something like that atleast. and something like that atleast we would have something to look forward to on week end and week out.


I really dont want to go back to flying warbirds....i made my new home here.