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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2006, 12:00:48 AM »
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Sorry, I meant Superbowl MVP.

For the Seahawks, Branch provides some insurance for Darrell Jackson, who is coming back from knee surgeries. I think its worth the money.  We still have Walter Jones on left tackle, he gave up 2 sacks last year on the left side, and Womack is filling in nicely for Hutch. We'll certainlymiss Hutch, but I don't think it will have as much impact as New England losing a Superbowl MVP star receiver (from my perspective anyway)


Well, there is a big difference, one wins the award for having one good game, the other is for a whole season. Take a look at his best season, yards and TD's, then tell me he's worth a 1st round pick and 39 million.

But anyway, yeah, I saw what happened with Hutchinson. You know, if they didn't take the wait and see attitude and offered the 39 million to him before he hit the market, they might have kept him.

And you can't compare the two players as far as contract disputes. Branch was under contract, Hutchinson was not. Unless of course, you believe you should not have to honor a contract.

Maybe it's the coaching Rip, look at what the Patriots win with at WR, think about it. Remember that catch in the back of the end zone in SB XXXVI by David Patten?(a cast off) Or the clutch play of Troy Brown?(drafted back when they had an 8th round!) Or the play of David Givens?(drafted in the 7th round)

So will they miss him? Of course, they coached him into their system and expected him to honor the last year of his contract. Can they replace him? Of course they can, as they did Terry Glenn and David Patten.

But football, in it's most simple form, comes down to control of the line of scrimmage. You win that battle, you win the game. So tell me, why would you think losing a middle of the pack receiver is more important than losing someone who is considered the best at his position, a position that is critical at controlling the line of scrimmage?

That's what separates the contenders from the pretenders Rip. Do you think the Patriots would wait til Richard Seymour hit the open market? A player considered by many to be the best defensive lineman in the game? A player that reeks havoc on offensive lines and dominates the line of scrimmage? Not a chance.

Believe it or not, i'm kind of a fan of the Seahawks, well, the QB anyway. Watched him play at BC and watched his dad play for the Pats when I was a kid.
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2006, 12:17:47 AM »
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
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Actually the O Line play of the Vikes has been a cheif complaint with reguards to the Viking runnins game.
For the money they are paying for the left side of the line. It should be much more productive. Not through any fault of Steve Hutchinson. He seems to be playing great.


You are a demanding guy. C. Taylor is 6th in the league in rushing yards and the team as a whole is 13th. Now their avg per carry is low(3.7, if you call that low), but it isn't the 3.1 S. Alexander is at. They looked good running against the redskins when I saw them, and they look good as a team. That match up against the bears should be a good one, that's a big game this early in the season, woulda thunk?
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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2006, 07:30:12 AM »
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Well, there is a big difference, one wins the award for having one good game, the other is for a whole season. Take a look at his best season, yards and TD's, then tell me he's worth a 1st round pick and 39 million.

But anyway, yeah, I saw what happened with Hutchinson. You know, if they didn't take the wait and see attitude and offered the 39 million to him before he hit the market, they might have kept him.

And you can't compare the two players as far as contract disputes. Branch was under contract, Hutchinson was not. Unless of course, you believe you should not have to honor a contract.

Maybe it's the coaching Rip, look at what the Patriots win with at WR, think about it. Remember that catch in the back of the end zone in SB XXXVI by David Patten?(a cast off) Or the clutch play of Troy Brown?(drafted back when they had an 8th round!) Or the play of David Givens?(drafted in the 7th round)

So will they miss him? Of course, they coached him into their system and expected him to honor the last year of his contract. Can they replace him? Of course they can, as they did Terry Glenn and David Patten.

But football, in it's most simple form, comes down to control of the line of scrimmage. You win that battle, you win the game. So tell me, why would you think losing a middle of the pack receiver is more important than losing someone who is considered the best at his position, a position that is critical at controlling the line of scrimmage?

That's what separates the contenders from the pretenders Rip. Do you think the Patriots would wait til Richard Seymour hit the open market? A player considered by many to be the best defensive lineman in the game? A player that reeks havoc on offensive lines and dominates the line of scrimmage? Not a chance.

Believe it or not, i'm kind of a fan of the Seahawks, well, the QB anyway. Watched him play at BC and watched his dad play for the Pats when I was a kid.


I don't disagree with this post at all, Sixpence, and believe it or not, I route for the Pats ONLY because of the coaching staff...they are one of the best ever in the NFL, comparable to SF back in the late 80's early 90's.

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« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2006, 08:26:19 AM »
I join those free fantasy leagues on yahoo, and have several teams. I was lucky enough to have a second pick once, and the guy who picked first took Larry Johnson. Well, decision time, LT or Alexander, and I took Alexander. I thought it would be my best team, but I feel Seattle's GM has doomed me.
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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2006, 08:56:43 AM »
Apparently Womack, (Hutch's replacement) was injured Sunday, not sure of his status.

Also, look for Hasselbeck to throw more this year, every team is going to be focused on stopping the run considering that Shaun broke the NFL record for TD's last year, which means it opens up the middle of the field alittle more for passing this year.  I put Alexander at a draft selection of about 10 due to this probability.(However both my FF teams are SUCKING EGGS so far!)

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« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2006, 08:58:31 AM »
When are people going to realize the Pats arent about one or two guys. They can take a bunch of high school kids and make a competitive team out of them.

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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2006, 09:26:11 AM »
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When are people going to realize the Pats arent about one or two guys. They can take a bunch of high school kids and make a competitive team out of them.
This year will certainly excercise that theory.

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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2006, 10:02:41 AM »
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When are people going to realize the Pats arent about one or two guys. They can take a bunch of high school kids and make a competitive team out of them.


lol, well, the defensive line is all first round talent. But I think management has the ability to recognize talent and the coaching staff has the ability to get that talent out of them. They get mid round production out of late round picks, and early round production out of mid round picks. And they usually hit with their 1st rounder.

C'mon, you didn't say "who?" when they drafted Ty Warren, Ben Watson, or Logan Mankins?
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)