Author Topic: Foley-gate congressional perv (Read 5357 times)

Urchin · « **Reply #30 on:** October 01, 2006, 09:19:02 PM »

I just can't maintain that for too long.

How was my Rovian debate intro?

I'm sure I could think up more, but I just feel too silly

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And yea Toad... damn near every "conservative" on this board is doing what M.T. said.

Yea he's guilty, but KLINTON got away with it! And some random bellybutton congressman from 1864 got away from it, cuz HE was a democrat too!

lukster · « **Reply #31 on:** October 01, 2006, 09:34:03 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Loud and clear BUT.... You all seem to have a big BUT attached to your "loud and clear".

Kinda like in a third grade way.. he's guilty BUT what about the other guy...waaah!

The only "but" is about the double standard democrats/liberals allow themselves, "but", justice for all would be better.

BTW · « **Reply #32 on:** October 01, 2006, 09:46:08 PM »

I would be great for the Republican party to divorce this guy RIGHT NOW. I don't care what any person in the past has gotten away with, bringing it up now implies some defense of this guy and there is no defense of this guy if its true.
I really think it sends a less than enthusiastic call for an investigation if Clinton is constantly brought up. Are we going to talk about Clinton before we even know how far this goes or if this even stopped at IM's? Don't you want to know if this guy was actually abusing kids? This is one thing that shouldn't be politicized. This is just wrong.

bj229r · « **Reply #33 on:** October 01, 2006, 09:57:18 PM »

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Originally posted by BTW
I would be great for the Republican party to divorce this guy RIGHT NOW. I don't care what any person in the past has gotten away with, bringing it up now implies some defense of this guy and there is no defense of this guy if its true.
I really think it sends a less than enthusiastic call for an investigation if Clinton is constantly brought up. Are we going to talk about Clinton before we even know how far this goes or if this even stopped at IM's? Don't you want to know if this guy was actually abusing kids? This is one thing that shouldn't be politicized. This is just wrong.

They already have

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Dear Mr. Attorney General:

Former Representative Mark Foley resigned from the House of Representatives on Friday, September 29, 2006, after improper and illicit communications between Mr. Foley and former House pages were made public. While the House of Representatives on that day voted to refer this matter to the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct for investigation, they do not have jurisdiction over federal law or over him upon his resignation from office.

As Speaker of the House, I hereby request that the Department of Justice conduct an investigation of Mr. Foley’s conduct with current and former House pages to determine to what extent any of his actions violated federal law.

As I am sure you are aware, there are two different and distinct communications at issue here. First, Mr. Foley sent an email to a former page of Representative Alexander in the fall of 2005. This email was determined to be “over friendly” by Representative Alexander’s office but was not sexual in nature. Second, based on media reports, there is a different set of communications which were sexually explicit instant messages which Mr. Foley reportedly sent another former page or pages. These communications, of which no one in the House Leadership was aware to my knowledge, reportedly were sent sometime in 2003.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm

edit-- from a purely political point of view, had Hastert known of the extent of this crap, he would have squeezed out Foley long ago, that they might have a candidate for 2006--as it is, the St Pete Times waited until now to spring it, and the Gop is 1 seat closer to minority status.

Debonair · « **Reply #34 on:** October 01, 2006, 10:15:49 PM »

this here thread needs less politics & more punchlines

x0847Marine · « **Reply #35 on:** October 02, 2006, 04:43:16 AM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
First let me state that I neither condone nor accept that what this "person" did was proper, legal or morrally correct. He's out of office and facing prosecution and I am happy to let the system do it's thing.

What I do have a question about is this statement from x0847Marine's post.
When it made its way to some bipartisan committee thats responsible for that junk, the Repubs failed to tell the other side..

If it was a bipartison committee looking into this, how was it kept from "the other side"? It seems to me that the term "bipartisan" pretty much says that the "other side", assuming the Demo's in this case are the other side, would be rather privvy to the "scandalous" information. So is this a "republican" scandal or a republican AND democratic party scandal??

The rebub member kept it to himself, the Dem on the committee claimed to know nothing about it, thus it was never looked into. The repub investigation was awesome, "are you a chickenhawk?", "Nah", "ok great!.. no need to mention this"

Even funnier, watch the interviews with former pages, so far more than 1 has acknowledged it was an "open secret" Foley was a perv, pages were warned about him years ago... smoke = fire... unless you're a urine soaked politician.

Imagine if he was a regular joe teacher, he'd have been fired so long ago at the hint of "slip off your shorts horny little boy" but he has his powerful Repub cronies turning a blind eye to the smoke, protecting him so well he felt totally at ease to continue being a perv IN THE OPEN using his real e-mail.

None of this matters, the blow job liar democrats and chicken-hawk liar republicans will laugh this off knowing they will retain plenty of power.

Before I die of old age, in Amsterdam, I hope to see "The American people" get so sick of these parties grip on power & legacy of failure, legit 3rd or 4th parties inject new thinking into this mess.

Maverick · « **Reply #36 on:** October 02, 2006, 07:38:03 AM »

So are you saying the dem on the committee is in "collusion with the repub's", totally inept or are they lying to seperate themselves from the fact that they did nothing about it themselves while on the "bipartisan" committee.

Chairboy · « **Reply #37 on:** October 02, 2006, 08:00:30 AM »

btw, here's more IM excerpts:
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/print?id=2509586

lukster · « **Reply #38 on:** October 02, 2006, 09:35:55 AM »

When our leaders, of either party, behave inappropriately it shames us all. There is no reason to rejoice in this. I'm not sure the democrats get this.

Chairboy · « **Reply #39 on:** October 02, 2006, 09:42:23 AM »

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Originally posted by lukster
When our leaders, of either party, behave inappropriately it shames us all. There is no reason to rejoice in this. I'm not sure the democrats get this.

If any democrats are rejoicing over this, then it's a shameful display not befitting the seriousness of the offense. It would also be the worst kind of partisanship, where counting coup is more important than doing your job.

Thrawn · « **Reply #40 on:** October 02, 2006, 11:39:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
So far, from left field... utter silence on Gerry Studds.

That's because they all know all recongise when when you are hijacking a thread with one of your countless red herrings by now.

Debonair · « **Reply #41 on:** October 02, 2006, 11:42:21 AM »

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Originally posted by some dude
If any democrats are rejoicing over this, then it's a shameful display not befitting the seriousness of the offense. It would also be the worst kind of partisanship, where counting coup is more important than doing your job.

democrats dont have jobs - hey, is key west in this guy's district?

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 02, 2006, 08:25:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=188663

I don;t know what was funner, the comments in the post, or the Skuzzy edits every other line

Chairboy · « **Reply #43 on:** October 02, 2006, 08:52:29 PM »

Speaker Hastert first claimed he was made aware of Foley's emails to a young congressional page by media reports on Thursday. He has now admitted he was actually informed last fall. Up until this morning, the top of Hastert's website highlighted the congressman's efforts to "Keep Kids Safe In Cyberspace." That information is now gone.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/02/hastert-kids-cyberspace/

That's puzzling.

Later today, there appears to be a republican effort to block an investigation of the incident:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IJ7d7cWsVWI

On Friday, after the Foley debacle erupted, the Family Research Council’s daily email alert lacked any mention of Foley and instead praised Sen. Frist for an anti-abortion bill. This group has been all over democrats in similar situations, and this seems to indicate a curiously one sided approach to morality.

I think the democrats are usually shrill, whining babies, but the republican party seems to be having its own issues with this story.

Perhaps they should follow the lead of people like Michael Reagan and David Bossie on this specific issue:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/02/hastert-resign/

Debonair · « **Reply #44 on:** October 02, 2006, 10:40:57 PM »

i heard he was gonna be prosectued under The Mann Act, or more exactly, the sex-with-a-man act LMAO!!1