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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2006, 03:07:08 PM »
Just heard what I think to be A-10's fly over my house...Although its not entirely common, we do have the 103rd fighter wing out of Hartford, and I did see two A-10's fly over my house yesterday...

Pretty freaky when you put on the local news and there is a white bar scrolling below the picture saying fighter jets have been launched as a pre caution, do not be concerned if you see them...

Everytime I have flown the Cordor it has been down the Hudson...I have never seen anyone over the East River, because I believe that gets into LGA and Kennedy Airspace...I'll have to dig up the old TAC and check er out
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2006, 03:21:03 PM »
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On the ground here not far from Camp David.  Had some military jets fly by a while ago but didn't see what they were.

Dulles departures look stopped...had a few heavies takeoff and appear to fly right back toward IAD.  CNN.com showed a small fire but now that people will 'calm down' because it isn't a terrorist thing hopefully it'll be back to Business as Usual.

In fact just over my shoulder a hawker just departed so hopefully we'll get out of here too.


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based on what you know about the NYC airspace, what frequency would be the best to get from the liveatc.net archive?

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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2006, 03:21:50 PM »
Scary, I only heard one F16 at lunch at 12:30 today, I live about 5 miles from Buckley AFB anyhow so I feel fairly safe.
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2006, 03:27:22 PM »
Okay MSNBC is officially the worst station ever....they are now claiming it may be something more than they first thought because "clearly this pilot should have been in full contact with atc"...they even went as far as pulling out a nyc tac chart....goddangit I hate news anchors trying 2 talk aviation whent hey know watermelon about chit
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2006, 03:32:02 PM »
It might be something more - even if a lone kook.

Take this date, 9-11-01 and turn it upside down

you have 10-11-6:noid

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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2006, 03:32:16 PM »
fox was worse just now, had a fat ex cop talking aviation and he isnt even a pilot....screaming about unrestricted airspace.   Pretty obvious he has no clue how flightplans and airspace work.  Yet he is screaming and trying to scare people.

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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2006, 03:41:09 PM »
Doesn't seem too serious, building looks in no danger of collapse, at least. The floors below will be screwed due to water damage, and the ones above due to smoke, but otherwise it doesn't seem like a terrorist attack. At least, not an effective, competent terrorist. My guess is that this was a sad accident.

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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2006, 03:55:29 PM »
It was Yankee pitcher Cory Lidle's plane, reports say he didn't survive.

Sure made some here flinch though.

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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2006, 03:58:22 PM »
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Originally posted by cav58d
Just heard what I think to be A-10's fly over my house...Although its not entirely common, we do have the 103rd fighter wing out of Hartford, and I did see two A-10's fly over my house yesterday...

Pretty freaky when you put on the local news and there is a white bar scrolling below the picture saying fighter jets have been launched as a pre caution, do not be concerned if you see them...

Everytime I have flown the Cordor it has been down the Hudson...I have never seen anyone over the East River, because I believe that gets into LGA and Kennedy Airspace...I'll have to dig up the old TAC and check er out


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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2006, 04:05:42 PM »
wow i cant watch the news ne more...these people r freaking retarded
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« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2006, 04:27:42 PM »
Cirrus SR-20.  Plus, he may have busted class bravo.  You can watch the flight on Passur:

http://www4.passur.com/ewr.html

Set the clock there for October 11th, 14:30 pm, then click on the first
aircraft that departs Teterboro.  Of interest, didja know that, according to the POH, the only way to recover from a spin in that plane is to deploy the parachute?
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« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2006, 04:38:38 PM »
Just called these 2 guys over at AOPA:

Suggest follow up from others also.....

Chris Dancy
Media Relations Director
301-695-2159

Kathleen Vasconcelos
Media Relations Specialist
301-695-2158

Told them get their tulips in gear - that all the major networks were doing hatchet jobs with guys on TV who had no background in aviation.

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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2006, 04:50:00 PM »
good wolf...as im sure you have flown the cordor many times, we both know this reporting is dead wrong, and im nervous that these mistakes may lead to the closing of the cordor because dumb *** news scaring everyone
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« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2006, 04:55:28 PM »
Is this near another one of those "VFR corridors" that are 500 feet tall and over water?  NYC has a few of those on the charts that make me shake my head.  Looks unnerving, found out about 'em when that tour plane crashed a couple years ago.
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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2006, 04:58:06 PM »
Aren't these the planes with a ballastic chute recovery system?

Heard on the radio he'd declared an emergency and might have been turning back to the airport.

Sad