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Offline Panzzer

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« Reply #105 on: October 12, 2006, 03:10:00 PM »
And while we're talking about Norway... I read a bit of news a week or two ago from there, I think it was from Porsgrunn - the name of the town sorta caught my attention. Something about the mayor giving money to young couples for hotel rooms to boost the births? :)
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« Reply #106 on: October 12, 2006, 03:17:42 PM »
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And while we're talking about Norway... I read a bit of news a week or two ago from there, I think it was from Porsgrunn - the name of the town sorta caught my attention. Something about the mayor giving money to young couples for hotel rooms to boost the births? :)


LOL yeah.. the mayor sponsored hotel rooms for young folks who wants to make babies.. It was a stunt around a sertain date 9 months before the towns birthday. The aim was both to increase the birth rate and to get a baby as close as possible to the birthday of the town. :D

Dont think anyone took him up on the offer but it made some headlines. I would not be suprised if more babies are born around that date.

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« Reply #107 on: October 12, 2006, 03:24:54 PM »
OK guys,

Physics lesson here so bear with me. ALL things nuclear start off with a fission trigger. If it is a boosted weapon, i.e. has a tritium packet, the fission trigger heats the tritium so it boosts the yield with a fusion reaction.

IT makes NO difference if the yield is 1kt or 100kt - the amount of radiation released will be the same, just with a varied dispersal depending on the FISSION yield, because of having the use the same amount of fissile material to start a chain reaction in the first place. (Usually on order of 7kg of PU-238 - not many U-235 guntype bombs hanging around).

Enhanced Radiation Weapons (Neutron bombs) were actually the cleanest weapons - and the historical irony is the TSAR BOMBA, the 51 MT black coc-k of death was, by yield - the cleanest explosion every attempted on earth.

P.S.  On a side note - if you were able to create the same conditions to heat the fusion packet up which the fission trigger does, but without using the fission trigger - you'd have perhaps a frightening paradigm of a fusion weapon without the harmful long lived transuranics.

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« Reply #108 on: October 12, 2006, 03:44:47 PM »
Thanks for that added bit of information. :)

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« Reply #109 on: October 12, 2006, 03:47:23 PM »
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Because START II was ratified which is the only thing pertaining to nuclear disassembly and verification and is subject to bi-lateral verification by both Russian and Americans. START II put the goal level for reductions at 3000 warheads per side divided amongst the strategic triad's of both Russia and the US. But nuclear weapons are expensive to maintain, and Russia actually wants to go below 1000 which is the basis for START III.

The patriot act has nothing to do with nuclear weapons stockpiles.

Yes I have been to Russia, 4 times in the last 2 years - yes I have a nuclear weapons background. I taught a Physics class at the university level dealing specifically with nuclear weapons, war and arms control.

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« Reply #110 on: October 12, 2006, 04:17:10 PM »
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OK guys,

Physics lesson here so bear with me. ALL things nuclear start off with a fission trigger. If it is a boosted weapon, i.e. has a tritium packet, the fission trigger heats the tritium so it boosts the yield with a fusion reaction.

IT makes NO difference if the yield is 1kt or 100kt - the amount of radiation released will be the same, just with a varied dispersal depending on the FISSION yield, because of having the use the same amount of fissile material to start a chain reaction in the first place. (Usually on order of 7kg of PU-238 - not many U-235 guntype bombs hanging around).

Enhanced Radiation Weapons (Neutron bombs) were actually the cleanest weapons - and the historical irony is the TSAR BOMBA, the 51 MT black coc-k of death was, by yield - the cleanest explosion every attempted on earth.

P.S.  On a side note - if you were able to create the same conditions to heat the fusion packet up which the fission trigger does, but without using the fission trigger - you'd have perhaps a frightening paradigm of a fusion weapon without the harmful long lived transuranics.

Wolf



Damn, now I see where I went wrong.  I'll be out in the garage for a while fixing it.  Thanks for the tip Wolf  :aok
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« Reply #111 on: October 12, 2006, 04:21:32 PM »
Anytime. Gimme a call if you need help locating the fissile material.

Me and brother Kim are like > <

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« Reply #112 on: October 12, 2006, 04:32:04 PM »
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Anytime. Gimme a call if you need help locating the fissile material.

Me and brother Kim are like > <

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I think Kim's fissile fizzled.

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« Reply #113 on: October 12, 2006, 04:33:27 PM »
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I think Kim's fissile fizzled.


Thats a problem when you don't have enough resources to rub 2 sticks together. Sorta like guys who bling up their tires on a 15 yr old Honda Civic.


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« Reply #114 on: October 12, 2006, 04:35:24 PM »
In my haydays I'd rather have helped out with the Norvegian fertilization project, but I missed and turned to the German soil instead.
Why do people speculate on nuculation when all they need is copulation.....
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« Reply #115 on: October 12, 2006, 06:05:49 PM »
Or, as Mark Foley would put it..."you can't hug children with nuclear arms"
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