Author Topic: P38 evasion (Read 1483 times)

ScorpCH · « **Reply #15 on:** October 21, 2006, 03:03:30 PM »

yeah i tried that and it works great especialy in a 109f4

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #16 on:** October 21, 2006, 06:05:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Benny Moore
Originally posted by Benny Moore
never throttle back in combat unless you are going over four hundred miles per hour and cannot pull out of your dive before hitting the ground. If you need to bleed speed, simply pull back on the yoke. This is a much more efficient way of ridding yourself of excess speed. I never, ever throttle down in combat unless I am fully compressing. Even in my stall fights - especially in my stall fights - I have as much power as I can muster, and to my ears the sound of my war emergency power failing is the knell of doom.

Actually, throttle control is just as important in the P-38 as flap management. The best way to control your speed in the P-38 in AH is to cut throttle and add some side slip by using the rudders to "skid" the plane. Those two big rudders act like wonderful dive brakes, especially in a dive. That's how the dedicated P-38 drivers can get their Lightnings to hit 500mph in a dive and retain control. It is also a good way to keep yourself below the compressability threshold if you dive from high altitude. YMMV of course.

ack-ack

ScorpCH · « **Reply #17 on:** October 21, 2006, 07:24:01 PM »

ack ack i was wondering once my comp got fixed if you would be kind enough to go into the ta and teach me a bit on the 38

Murdr · « **Reply #18 on:** October 21, 2006, 07:28:50 PM »

scorp, you did get my reply didnt you? Had not herd back from ya.

ScorpCH · « **Reply #19 on:** October 21, 2006, 07:30:48 PM »

no i guess not murdr what was it again

Murdr · « **Reply #20 on:** October 22, 2006, 02:01:20 AM »

Must have gotten lost in the ether....My reply last week to your email to trainers@flyaceshigh.com should be in your PM box now.

CAP1 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 24, 2006, 09:31:49 PM »

""""""I never, ever throttle down in combat unless I am fully compressing. Even in my stall fights - especially in my stall fights - I have as much power as I can muster, and to my ears the sound of my war emergency power failing is the knell of doom."""""""
i never throttled down either in a 38......unless i was on final.......
then i went to TA and flew with iceman24...him in a 109 of some version, me in a 38J.....intentions weree to help me figure out why i die every time i fight one of them.....or any of the other little wiggly planes. well, he helped me a lot!!(thanks dude) as we merged, and i did manage to get on his six, he started coaching me through throttle managment. i was able to very easily turn with him by chopping the throttle quite often....sometimes i had to bring it to idle.....but turning left or right, i was inside him, as loing as i kept my nose up a bit, and worked throttle and flaps........he tried looping, and the same result......when going up, just as the nose was passing the verticle plane, with the canopy facing down, i chopped the throttles, and she just fell right over.....INSIDE of him again. now i really suck in the 38...or ANY fighter for that matter, but then i'm still somewhat new in here, so i'm not saying all or any i do is right......but it did feel good to be able to keep one of those things IN FRONT of me even if it was only TA.

have fun all

ScorpCH · « **Reply #22 on:** November 03, 2006, 01:27:21 PM »

yeah i have done that a couple of time on high end fighters like niki and ponies in the g models with great success.

Damionte · « **Reply #23 on:** November 06, 2006, 09:54:12 AM »

Heya Scorp.

Another good defensive move that I've been using to great success lately is the climbing spiral. Assuming I have enough time and am not in a huge furball I can get just about any single engine fighter with this.

Since we have two engines we don't have a problem with torque pulling us one way compared to the other. So when they get on your tail go into a climbing turn and hold it. You want to be just on the edge of stalling yourself. Pull it tight enough that you're gaining altitude without slowing down too much.

Trick is to pull in the opposite direction of thier torque. I havn't figured out all of the planes but in general, the American planes pull to th eleft, and the germans to the right. That's probably not a hard and fast rule so practice.

Anyway after a while you'll notice them really having to pull hard on the stick to try and get a shot off. Look back over your shoulder you'll start to see them wobbling before or after they take a shot, or they'll just stall out completely and will fall out of the sky behind you. If they fall roll over and drop in behind them. Shoot them while they're trying to recover.

If they're wobbly but hanging in there, you can still force the issue. To stay with you they'll be pretty much out of E and you can roll them. Roll over right after they miss a shot, and go into a barrel roll. If they follow you they'll stall, if they don't you'll drop in on top of them.

Look me up in the training room if you want ot practice it sometime. I'm flying under the name Kwuest now.

straffo · « **Reply #24 on:** November 06, 2006, 10:06:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
I find that if I disperse my plane parts as far as possible, they can't follow all of me down to the ground. With luck they'll chase the wing parts while the cockpit pod falls safely to earth with me in it.

The old right boom on the left ,left boom on the right trick ?