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Offline roach

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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2006, 02:48:32 PM »
In the evening (U.S.), during AH2 peek usage I am sure, I get the "Host Connection Lost" about every 45 minutes or so, and the game terminates.  I wrote a VB program to monitor my connection to the game server.  What I was surprised in learning is that there is no problem with packets getting to the game server.  It appears as my connection is being dropped on the remote end, i.e.: the game server.  This doesn't happen to the group I fly with.  Also, the system I run is pristine, free of malware, spyware, and virii.  

The game exe has a small memory signature, and starts very quickly, so getting back into the game is no problem.  However, after investing 15 minutes into climbing a Lancaster group up to 20K with a full load of eggs, and then receiving "Host Connection Lost", perhaps you can share with me for a brief moment my frustration.

I wish there could be a "resume" where I was before the error kicks me out of the game.  However, as a developer myself I recognize the security implications of such a feature (people exploiting the game and so forth.)

Do I share this connection lost for no apparent reason issue with other AH2 players?

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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2006, 02:51:55 PM »
Roach:
"about every 45 minutes or so" This makes me think it is not just a random drop, but something else running on a timer. Either on your system,your router, or your ISP.

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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2006, 03:19:48 PM »
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Roach:
"about every 45 minutes or so" This makes me think it is not just a random drop, but something else running on a timer. Either on your system,your router, or your ISP.

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I should have selected my words more carefully; it may be within 30 minutes of a drop, or 80 minutes.  It seems to happen most frequently when the census is high on the AH2 servers.  During off-peek hours, I seldom experience the connection to host lost issue.

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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2006, 03:27:03 PM »
Maybe its your ISP that has a bottleneck and is dumping you.  Id run a ping plot to the HTC servers after a drop, as well as one to a different server for comparison.

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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2006, 03:37:10 PM »
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Maybe its your ISP that has a bottleneck and is dumping you.  Id run a ping plot to the HTC servers after a drop, as well as one to a different server for comparison.


The VB program I wrote does essentially the same thing.  I have a good route to the game server.  I'm on DSL, and I operate the ISP, we are a broadband DSL provider in Lincoln Nebraska.  From what I am seeing, it looks like the connection is dropped on the remote server.  It looks like maybe, and just taking a stab here, that the AH2 Ethernet switch(s), a capacity issue perhaps, however, I am not sure why certain connections are given preference.  A friend on AH2 suggested that higher speed broadband users seem to experience more issues like this than do lower speed dialup subscribers, based on his observations.  I've not been a customer of AH2 long enough to make such an observation.

Ironically, just now as I type this on one PC I look over and see my AH2 game on the PC next to me has the "Host Connection lost" message.  I will click "OK" and it will terminate.
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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2006, 04:17:27 PM »
For what it's worth, a squadie had a similar problem getting dumped that came at a set interval.  He eventually traced it to a program that came with his HP printer.
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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2006, 04:28:14 PM »
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For what it's worth, a squadie had a similar problem getting dumped that came at a set interval.  He eventually traced it to a program that came with his HP printer.


I promise it is not a local software issue.  The monitor indicates a consistent route to the remote host.  My SSH2 sessions to remote equipment remain connected for hours on end.  Other online games such as Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, remain connected indefinitely.  Thank you kindly for the suggestion, however, the system is pristine.  

For other thread readers that are having connection issues, they might check for the HP software you mentioned though.  These threads are good for solutions archiving.

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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2006, 04:40:45 PM »
Roach, when you say "pristine" system what exactly do you mean? Are you running only the minimum processes necessary to run AH? Can you be absolutely sure of that? It sounds like you have an auto-updater running in the background that is querying the internet every so often. These are not necessarily on a set time schedule and if you have more than one then it can be hard to pin down on a time basis. There are many of these out there. they may not necessarily disco you every time they run. It depends on how long they run andhow much data they pull down. Some symptoms are random screen freezes and warping.

Windows Update service
Adobe Acrobat Reader auto updater
Java Plug-in
Anti-Virus software
Many, many printers

Skuzzy has a good sticky in the Tech Support forum on this subject and also search the BBS for a post by me regarding Hardware Profiles, I wrote a very lenghty post on how to optimize a system. Just don't have time to find the link right now.

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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2006, 04:45:02 PM »
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Roach, when you say "pristine" system what exactly do you mean? Are you running only the minimum processes necessary to run AH? Can you be absolutely sure of that? It sounds like you have an auto-updater running in the background that is querying the internet every so often. These are not necessarily on a set time schedule and if you have more than one then it can be hard to pin down on a time basis. There are many of these out there. they may not necessarily disco you every time they run. It depends on how long they run andhow much data they pull down. Some symptoms are random screen freezes and warping.

Windows Update service
Adobe Acrobat Reader auto updater
Java Plug-in
Anti-Virus software
Many, many printers

Skuzzy has a good sticky in the Tech Support forum on this subject and also search the BBS for a post by me regarding Hardware Profiles, I wrote a very lenghty post on how to optimize a system. Just don't have time to find the link right now.


I will look at the sticky post you suggest.

I have no TSR's running in the background other than those required by Windows.  Auto Update is disabled.

correction - I do run the CH Products TSR to map the buttons on my flight controller, and that is a TSR.
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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2006, 05:20:59 PM »
Which ICMP message is your program using to test the connection with?  I am asking as I am trying to determine if you are actually testing each router along the way, or are you just doing and end to end test?

If you are not using an ICMP message, what packet protocol are you using to determine the quality of the connection?

Also note, the loss of the connection while being symptomatic of possibly network issues, could also be related to other issues.  If you would, email me the output of the DXDIAG utility, along with the in-game video settings you are using.

Just curious, what is the total number of processes shown in the Windows Task manager, under the "Processes" tab.  Also, what is the CPU usage doing in the same place?
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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2006, 12:22:18 AM »
I am not going to worry about this too much for now.  I haven't decided if I will continue using the game software as it is.  There seems to be a lot of inequality in the moderation of the game text and who is allowed to exercise, or abuse, as the case often is, their text speaking privilege.  The forums here tend to be a bit chaotic at times as well, and so much insulting or overall intolerance.

I guess I expected this to be more of an adult game.  It was advertised on The Military Channel, which has a mostly adult audience.  This is possibly why I made the assumption.  Maybe most mature adults simply do not play online games.  I guess most of the gamers I know are youngsters.

However, pending my decision, I will get the information and implement any suggestions I receive.

The flight simulation and combat simulation on its own is top-notch though, less the connection issue. As a student pilot I do appreciate the accuracy of the simulation.

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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2006, 08:17:14 AM »
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Which ICMP message is your program using to test the connection with?  I am asking as I am trying to determine if you are actually testing each router along the way, or are you just doing and end to end test?

If you are not using an ICMP message, what packet protocol are you using to determine the quality of the connection?

Also note, the loss of the connection while being symptomatic of possibly network issues, could also be related to other issues.  If you would, email me the output of the DXDIAG utility, along with the in-game video settings you are using.

Just curious, what is the total number of processes shown in the Windows Task manager, under the "Processes" tab.  Also, what is the CPU usage doing in the same place?


Skuzzy,

This is a troll man.

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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2006, 11:14:06 AM »
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Skuzzy,

This is a troll man.


Presumptuous, being frustrated with certain elements of the game does not make one a troll.  In fact "BugsBunny", you merely contribute to the intolerance I witness here.

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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2006, 11:27:13 AM »

C:\>tasklist

Image Name                   PID Session Name     Session#    Mem Usage
========================= ====== ================ ======== ============
System Idle Process            0 Console                 0         16 K
System                         4 Console                 0        220 K
SMSS.EXE                     436 Console                 0        404 K
CSRSS.EXE                    496 Console                 0      3,896 K
WINLOGON.EXE                 520 Console                 0        700 K
SERVICES.EXE                 568 Console                 0      3,972 K
LSASS.EXE                    580 Console                 0      5,688 K
SVCHOST.EXE                  788 Console                 0      4,356 K
SVCHOST.EXE                  824 Console                 0     20,080 K
SVCHOST.EXE                  884 Console                 0      3,112 K
SVCHOST.EXE                 1024 Console                 0      4,612 K
SPOOLSV.EXE                 1132 Console                 0      4,828 K
NVSVC32.EXE                 1328 Console                 0      2,500 K
StarWindService.exe         1412 Console                 0      1,884 K
alg.exe                      164 Console                 0      3,280 K
jusched.exe                  256 Console                 0      1,644 K
LWEMon.exe                   284 Console                 0      4,728 K
SetPoint.exe                 392 Console                 0      7,068 K
devldr32.exe                 544 Console                 0      2,936 K
KHALMNPR.EXE                1172 Console                 0      3,016 K
inetinfo.exe                1648 Console                 0      4,820 K
dllhost.exe                 2964 Console                 0      7,844 K
msdtc.exe                   3112 Console                 0      4,960 K
taskmgr.exe                 3228 Console                 0      4,316 K
cmd.exe                     2688 Console                 0      2,436 K
tasklist.exe                1224 Console                 0      4,352 K
wmiprvse.exe                3180 Console                 0      5,372 K



SetPoint.exe is for the Logitech mouse.  I don't believe it is causing a problem, since it didn't show up in tcpdump when I was viewing traffic.  

The monitor Visual Basic program I wrote simply uses ICMP, and creates a visual graph, red lines indicating an interruption in the connection.  Originally, I was concerned it was a problem with my connection, which it turned out not to be.

I can email you a traceroute, as I prefer not to post it here.

And for others reading this thread, here is where you can find all of the Windows programs that are loading in background, those pesky TSR's.

In regedit.exe:

Both the HKEY_CURRENT_USER and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE hives have the following path to check: \Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

Under the start menu, Programs, and the Startup Group.

In the win.ini, a legacy file, there may also be TSR's under the run parameter.  Run sysedit.exe and look for Run=


Typically, what I do when I am ready to launch Aces High, I first open the task manager and kill anything not needed, such as AltDesk.exe, a multiple desktop manager.

I am a minimalist from the days of the 640K base memory limitation, when a 16K MS Mouse driver kept a DOS game from running, because it required 6t05K of base memory all to itself!

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« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2006, 11:17:25 AM »
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C:\>tasklist

Image Name                   PID Session Name     Session#    Mem Usage
========================= ====== ================ ======== ============
System Idle Process            0 Console                 0         16 K
System                         4 Console                 0        220 K
SMSS.EXE                     436 Console                 0        404 K
CSRSS.EXE                    496 Console                 0      3,896 K
WINLOGON.EXE                 520 Console                 0        700 K
SERVICES.EXE                 568 Console                 0      3,972 K
LSASS.EXE                    580 Console                 0      5,688 K
SVCHOST.EXE                  788 Console                 0      4,356 K
SVCHOST.EXE                  824 Console                 0     20,080 K
SVCHOST.EXE                  884 Console                 0      3,112 K
SVCHOST.EXE                 1024 Console                 0      4,612 K
SPOOLSV.EXE                 1132 Console                 0      4,828 K
NVSVC32.EXE                 1328 Console                 0      2,500 K
StarWindService.exe         1412 Console                 0      1,884 K
alg.exe                      164 Console                 0      3,280 K
jusched.exe                  256 Console                 0      1,644 K
LWEMon.exe                   284 Console                 0      4,728 K
SetPoint.exe                 392 Console                 0      7,068 K
devldr32.exe                 544 Console                 0      2,936 K
KHALMNPR.EXE                1172 Console                 0      3,016 K
inetinfo.exe                1648 Console                 0      4,820 K
dllhost.exe                 2964 Console                 0      7,844 K
msdtc.exe                   3112 Console                 0      4,960 K
taskmgr.exe                 3228 Console                 0      4,316 K
cmd.exe                     2688 Console                 0      2,436 K
tasklist.exe                1224 Console                 0      4,352 K
wmiprvse.exe                3180 Console                 0      5,372 K



 


My intoleranse tells me you are trolling.  Maybe because you keep saing TSR, but just in case, here are some things to check.  Now, dont get me wrong but the word pristine does not come to mind when I see this.  Also, anyone that could write a 'VB' program to do what you said would have checked these things first before coming in here asking and please please please stop using the word TSR. lol:

jusched.exe http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/jusched.exe.html

SMSS.EXE
http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/smss.exe.html

WINLOGON.EXE
http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/winlogon.exe.html

LSASS check for the sasser virus

StarWindService.exe
http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/starwindservice.exe.html

alg.exe can be a trojan
http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/alg.exe.html

SetPoint.exe
http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/setpoint.exe.html

devldr32.exe  
http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/devldr32.exe.html

inetinfo.exe Huh????
http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/inetinfo.exe.html

dllhost: This is geting better, lol
http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/dllhost.exe.html

MSDTC: Now we are getting some perormance boost
http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/msdtc.exe.html

wmiprvse.exe
http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/wmiprvse.exe.html