What has changed?

[TequilaChaser]

Funny Solution to it all - instead of alot of different arenas , have just 2 Main Arenas, 1 for everybody has access, the other would only allow anyone with a valid open account that has stayed open for over 3 or 4 years..this would knock down on all the riff raff and pointless post..........it is not to divide the community, but offers a higher level of competition/respect for those who have been with in the game for a long period of time and do not go for the milk running/land grabbing enormously over manned group missions that happen to fly and are not defended against or steers clear of any opposition......

[NCLawman]

Originally posted by lazs2
well... people are learning that the borg and the furballers are incompatible... but then we all knew this.

The difference it that the borg want everyone to be forced into one arena.   they want that arena to be one where early war planes are easy meat and lack of skill can be masked by plane choice and the willingness and patience to game the extremely simplistic "strat" in the game...

As hub pointed out... the borg have figured out the tilting point.. the point where sheer numbers will game the strat and overcome the most skilled..  it is probly past 4 to 1.

They also need the best equipment and at least a small,eccentric...10-20%, of the population flying planes of lesser ability that are no threat to them... that is why they want LW to allow early war planes...  

LW is still a slum as indy so aptly put it but...

Now the guys who enjoy using the entire planeset and enjoy air combat, have places to go.  

An arena with 60 individuals is a fun arena...  the lw with its 2 or three hundred insect borgs is just griefers and gamers slum.  

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

Have you noticed how everyone else is simply making their point and presenting their side of the debate?  Why is it that you have to come in and began name calling and acting like a 4-year old?  You have a right to your opinion, and, as I pointed out in regard to Slapshots posts, that is your opinion and you are intitled to it.  It is no more or less "right" than anyone elses opinion.  But instead of posting your opinion, you come in flaming and name calling.  If you are not mature enough to engage in a reasonable debate or conversation, please at least be mature enough to stay out of it until you have something positve to contribute.

[indy007]

Originally posted by NCLawman
If you are not mature enough to engage in a reasonable debate or conversation, please at least be mature enough to stay out of it until you have something positve to contribute.

You're missing an important point...

There is no debate... Just people posting their gripes.

The only thing that will ever, ever have an effect on it is HiTech's ongoing efforts to make the changes function as tools of social-engineering.

The boards don't do any of that.

[NCLawman]

You are correct, there is no debate....  It is a conversation of varying opinions being presented.  No one is asking HTC for a change.  People are merely presenting their views.  

Clearly, however, there is one person who cannot intelligently present a statement.  It may be that he has the best point of the conversation.  But because he is not capable of articulating an intelligent thought and presenting it in the proper manner, he simply sounds like a whining 4-year old child.  Were he to learn proper communication and "people skills" he might actually get people to heed what he has opined and may even convince one or two to accept those thoughts.

[E25280]

Originally posted by SlapShot
Been there done that. Once they have been repelled ... they move and try to sneak in somewhere else.

I remember when flying for the MAW ... after a spoiled attack ... we would come back again and again ... trying to take the same field for hours sometimes. Such is not the case now ... once there is opposition ... they change their attack point hoping not to run into opposition ... after all ... taking an undefended base is the bomb.

I can't say that this isn't done, but I don't think it is the rule.  I believe one of the changes is that the "opposition" is much more adept at seeing where the attack is coming from, and then running a fast fighter in to quickly pork the troops.

No troops, no capture possible, thus the attack dies / moves somewhere where troops are available.

Its an argument without end.  Bring enough to get the job done quickly, you are a horde.  Don't bring enough to get the job done quickly, someone on the opposite side will kill the troops and the assault dies.  (Either way, someone will claim you didn't really want to fight after all.)

There is also a problem in the less populated arenas about carrying out a sustainable push on a field, especially when the fields are a little farther apart as they are on some maps.  If 6 guys hit a base, and three mount a spirited defense, the numbers on the attacking side dwindle and get strung out while the three stay over their field.  Even if losses are even, because the defenders up immediately into the fight, you end up with attackers coming in singly into three defenders after only a few minutes.  So, (again, in the low population arenas), you end up either with a relatively quick capture against token resistance, or a situation where the attacker realizes after a couple minutes they are spinning their wheels and don't have any hope of getting the goon in.  The numbers just aren't there for the sustained fight to push the defenders off.

So, you can either give up, or you can wait to regroup.  Then while you regrouped, the three enemy got bored waiting and moved somewhere else.  And now, when you take the base, someone tells you "nice milkrun" because it wasn't defended at that particular moment.

I think I am rambling.     Point is, IMO "offensives" are easier to thwart locally now, which causes them to shift the axis of attack sooner than it was in the past.  My take on the matter anyway.

[Tumor]

Originally posted by SlapShot

Been there done that. Once they have been repelled ... they move and try to sneak in somewhere else....

 

  I see your point, however I have to add that it's relatively easy to see where the next attack is going to be... unless it's NOE, but I honestly don't think it happens that way too often.  The darbar is an easy give-away, ya just gotta look at the map occasionally.  I say this with the confidence of having done it.  Honest, I have as much distaste for the horde and any furballer, the difference is I'm willing to do something about it.  My style doesn't limit me to one thing or another... if in fact I find a good furball, I'll take part.  If I see a horde, now thats when I have fun.  There's NOTHING as gratifying as flying around behind the horde-stage-base and picking off your run of the mill horde-pilot who's either AFK or too busy jaw-jacking with his buddies to notice you've arrived

Tumor

[The Fugitive]

I don't have a problem with "toolshedder", use to be one. Then I learned to fight a bit and can now give a few people a challange in a fight ... a very few  

I don't like the country imbalance that can cause pictures like the one Nomak posted. HT seems to be trying very hard to balance things out. As a suggestion, I wonder, could the "hardness" of base targets be tied to the countries numbers?

If say the bishop have 100 pilots on, the rooks and knights only have 25 each could the hardness of rook and knights bases be doubled seeing as the Bishops have twice the numbers?

This would still give the "mega-squads" purpose, and they could still play their way, tho it would be a bit tuffer for them, and it would also slow them a bit so that defenders could get  to the fight to try and defend, there by giving the fighters type their style of play.

well at least its a suggestion instead of just a complaint  

[pluck]

Originally posted by gatt
Nothing, as usual furballers are not able to defend their country

or was it the strat guys:noid  guess that one wasn't important enough to hang on to

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by pluck
or was it the strat guys:noid  guess that one wasn't important enough to hang on to

Dummy.  The strat guys on Nomak's team were all out rolling a different undefended base.

You plainly do not understand these things.

- oldman