Author Topic: Illegal Immigration? Oh Really??? (Read 3335 times)

tikky · « **Reply #15 on:** October 24, 2006, 01:54:33 PM »

I think the current requirements, the price, and the process for LEGAL immigration is TOO STIFF. That's why many people resort to illegal immigration. Btw US only gives out 65,000 H1B visas a year. US should increase the cap for H1Bs to like a ten-fold if you want less illegal immigration in the US...

Also it takes like 6-8 years just to get you a GREEN CARD (Legal Residence card). For some people it is impossible to get the Green Card because there is a limit on renewing visas.

Hawco · « **Reply #16 on:** October 24, 2006, 02:01:32 PM »

If there's one thing that really, really annoys me is people coming here illegally and just walking rith over the border and going to Walmart or whatever, WE end up paying for all this, not the companies who hire them, wish I had the capacity to go down to the border, I'd stand on that fence myself if I could, where's the Senators and congressmen who want to stamp this out ? I don't care what party they're from, I just want this stopped, It's a slap in the face for ordinary American workers, a slap in the face for various agencies that are paid to protect the borders, a slap in the face to the thousands of legal people who come here to work and live, they waited in line, they paid fees and now they are paying taxes.
what's the point of having so many checkpoints at airports when all you really have to do is walk across a non existant border?

Debonair · « **Reply #17 on:** October 24, 2006, 02:28:29 PM »

ya rly

no wai!!1

cav58d · « **Reply #18 on:** October 24, 2006, 02:41:48 PM »

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Originally posted by tikky
I think the current requirements, the price, and the process for LEGAL immigration is TOO STIFF. That's why many people resort to illegal immigration. Btw US only gives out 65,000 H1B visas a year. US should increase the cap for H1Bs to like a ten-fold if you want less illegal immigration in the US...

Also it takes like 6-8 years just to get you a GREEN CARD (Legal Residence card). For some people it is impossible to get the Green Card because there is a limit on renewing visas.

Bulox! We need to have mininum standard's to granting citizenry (sp). Those standard's include skilled workers, and atleast an attempt to assimiliate into our culture and nation. We are giving these people the chance of a lifetime by granting legal status...I'm sorry, but that does not happen over night

Debonair · « **Reply #19 on:** October 24, 2006, 03:11:41 PM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
Bulox! ...

go back to england:mad:

we neeed to build a wall or ridge or something in teh middle of the altlantaic 0shen

cav58d · « **Reply #20 on:** October 24, 2006, 03:18:24 PM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
Bulox!

lmao...I have been watching A LOT of ali g

Mace2004 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 24, 2006, 03:49:03 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
that's because the predominantly irish illegals coming through canada are far more welcomed than the brown illegals from coming from central and south america. everyone wants a white maid and gardener, especially in trendy south florida, it's tres chic n'est pas?

JFK (Kennedy, not Kerry) said: "Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." You must be quite comfortable Storch.

storch · « **Reply #22 on:** October 24, 2006, 04:37:14 PM »

no myth it's a fact. perhaps your quote applies to you?

tikky · « **Reply #23 on:** October 24, 2006, 05:06:44 PM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
Bulox! We need to have mininum standard's to granting citizenry (sp). Those standard's include skilled workers, and atleast an attempt to assimiliate into our culture and nation. We are giving these people the chance of a lifetime by granting legal status...I'm sorry, but that does not happen over night

I checked the requirements for H1B visa (for those who want to work and settle in the USA)

It says it requires you to have some sort of bachelors degree. Obviously this is going to shut off the people comming from Mexico or spanish-speaking countries. East Asians (2nd most people who come to USA from Philippines, Taiwan, Vietnam, China, etc) are not affected by this since most of them come in bulks with Bachelors/Masters degree...

I think if USA government achieves 100% secured border on US-Mex and US-Canada I think they should return favour by granting more H1B visas AND streamline the GREENCARD (Legal Residence) process.

wooley · « **Reply #24 on:** October 24, 2006, 05:30:30 PM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
Bulox! We need to have mininum standard's to granting citizenry (sp). Those standard's include skilled workers, and atleast an attempt to assimiliate into our culture and nation. We are giving these people the chance of a lifetime by granting legal status...I'm sorry, but that does not happen over night

Cav,

The immigration process for The States is slow, bureaucratic and in many ways both insulting and degrading. If you haven't been through it, I don't think you are qualified to say otherwise. For many, the level of bureaucracy is such that the process is impossible to complete. And that's just to gain 'permanent resident' status. We're not talking about citizenship here. That would take at least another five to ten years after gaining a green card.

In no way am I justifying illegal imigration, I'm just saying the legal process is a complete shambles.

1K3 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 24, 2006, 05:39:52 PM »

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Originally posted by wooley
Cav,

The immigration process for The States is slow, bureaucratic and in many ways both insulting and degrading. If you haven't been through it, I don't think you are qualified to say otherwise. For many, the level of bureaucracy is such that the process is impossible to complete. And that's just to gain 'permanent resident' status. We're not talking about citizenship here. That would take at least another five to ten years after gaining a green card.

In no way am I justifying illegal imigration, I'm just saying the legal process is a complete shambles.

Bingo!!!

The borders AND Legal Immigration process are broken. Both should be fixed

wrag · « **Reply #26 on:** October 24, 2006, 06:41:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Hawco
I still want to know why the Govt is not going after the corporations that hire Illegals, if they done that then I bet there wouldn't be so many jumping fences to get in. Call me cynical, but I bet some of these big corporate donors to BOTH parties make sure that they never get looked at.
It's a disgrace and should be stamped out.

Well may be they signed a treaty that says they MUST let people from Mexico come here????????????????????

And if they enforce the immigration laws they will be BREAKING the treaty?

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #27 on:** October 24, 2006, 06:51:53 PM »

No matter what boarder they are comming across. No matter the nationality
If they are sneaking in
SHOOT THEM

I've said it before and some probably think I am joking.
I am not

Anyone caught trying to sneak across our boarders. Man, Woman or child. should be shot on sight. No judge, no Jury. Just a bullet

JB88 · « **Reply #28 on:** October 24, 2006, 06:58:26 PM »

wonder why they didnt think of that before they let your family in.

Mace2004 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 24, 2006, 07:23:53 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
no myth it's a fact. perhaps your quote applies to you?

I'm sorry, you must have some proof, maybe some hard data....or....maybe it's just your opinion. Your opinion, stated as a "fact" is as substantial and persuasive as a myth. May be better if you presented a legitimate argument or actual facts instead of a somewhat prejudiced and tired old canard.