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« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2006, 08:28:00 PM »
With a legal CB radio, you can expect a rialable range of 1 to 5 miles max under ideal conditions.

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« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2006, 08:33:00 PM »
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ByeBye, wrong.  11 meters is right on the border of the 10 meter ham band.  Thusly long range communication is entirely possible.

 


The band is not the entire issue. A CB cannot legally transmit over 5 watts

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« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2006, 08:36:13 PM »
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The band is not the entire issue. A CB cannot legally transmit over 5 watts


On the highways, average trans/recept. is around 5-6 miles.   That is with 5 watts.
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« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2006, 08:37:20 PM »
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CB radios are a joke. Totally useless today. We have cell phones and compaired to what you can get in a handheld HAM radio, cb's are a worthless pile of crap.


Come wheeling with me, where Cell phone service is null and you have 10 rigs in your group.   CB's are just fine when used in the proper application.
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« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2006, 08:43:10 PM »
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Come wheeling with me, where Cell phone service is null and you have 10 rigs in your group.   CB's are just fine when used in the proper application.

 
If you and your "wheeling" buddies had half a brain and could pass a HAM test, then you would have a very usefull radio. CB's are total crap.

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« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2006, 10:29:14 PM »
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If you and your "wheeling" buddies had half a brain and could pass a HAM test, then you would have a very usefull radio. CB's are total crap.


Wow, you really hate CB's huh?? You get beat up by one as a kid?


I love mine. In Virginia, where radar detectors are illegal by the way, it's nice to know where the cops are when rolling down the highway.  Turn the squelch up and the RF Gain down about half and I can hear the truckers a couple miles up the road from me with no problem, but I don't have to listen to all the other garbage normally associated with AM radios.
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« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2006, 10:34:47 PM »
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CB radios are almost useless. They have a line of sight range of about 3 miles, unless you boost the power illegally.

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« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2006, 12:34:53 AM »
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CB radios are almost useless. They have a line of sight range of about 3 miles, unless you boost the power illegally.
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We have cell phones and compaired to what you can get in a handheld HAM radio, cb's are a worthless pile of crap.
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With a legal CB radio, you can expect a rialable range of 1 to 5 miles max under ideal conditions.
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The band is not the entire issue. A CB cannot legally transmit over 5 watts.
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If you and your "wheeling" buddies had half a brain and could pass a HAM test, then you would have a very usefull radio. CB's are total crap.
Nuke, you're 0 for 5. But I have to say this new Mr.Black version of you is interesting. Angry, but interesting.

1-CB's are AM, thus line of sight has no bearing on their effective range.

2-Cell phones are great, but can you give me the number of the guy in the black Peterbilt heading south? I'd really like to call the guy driving the truck that just passed me. You got his digits while your at it?

3-With a brand new out of the box radio, the rialable (wtf?) range is entirely dependant upon the atmospheric conditions.

4-A CB can legally transmit up to 12 watts using SSB.

5-You don't need half a brain to get your ticket.  What you need is a little committment. As far as day to day useability goes, CB's are much more useful than a ham for the average user.

Now to split hairs, for the most part a stock radio is weak and hard to understand. They are not for everybody, but if you travel a lot they are very handy. You can buy a linear and bump up your power illegally, but when was the last time you heard of somebody getting thrown in jail for it?

I've been out of CB's for the last 10 years or so, but I started messing with them in 1967, way before the CB craze hit in the mid 70's. Back then you had to get a ticket for them, my callsign was KHO-5639. I went so far as to get my FCC 1st Class RTO ticket and I've run 50,000 watts clear channel commercial transmitters.

Please, tell me more about CB's...
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« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2006, 06:16:42 AM »
Best piece of equipment for the CB buff, bar none-----------> SWR meter.
You will save yourself a lot of probs. :)
Power?....When you can light neon from 10 yds you are in the zone. :)
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They have a line of sight range of about 3 miles, unless you boost the power illegally.


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« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2006, 06:28:15 AM »
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Nuke, you're 0 for 5. But I have to say this new Mr.Black version of you is interesting. Angry, but interesting.

1-CB's are AM, thus line of sight has no bearing on their effective range.

2-Cell phones are great, but can you give me the number of the guy in the black Peterbilt heading south? I'd really like to call the guy driving the truck that just passed me. You got his digits while your at it?

3-With a brand new out of the box radio, the rialable (wtf?) range is entirely dependant upon the atmospheric conditions.

4-A CB can legally transmit up to 12 watts using SSB.

5-You don't need half a brain to get your ticket.  What you need is a little committment. As far as day to day useability goes, CB's are much more useful than a ham for the average user.

Now to split hairs, for the most part a stock radio is weak and hard to understand. They are not for everybody, but if you travel a lot they are very handy. You can buy a linear and bump up your power illegally, but when was the last time you heard of somebody getting thrown in jail for it?

I've been out of CB's for the last 10 years or so, but I started messing with them in 1967, way before the CB craze hit in the mid 70's. Back then you had to get a ticket for them, my callsign was KHO-5639. I went so far as to get my FCC 1st Class RTO ticket and I've run 50,000 watts clear channel commercial transmitters.

Please, tell me more about CB's...


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« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2006, 04:56:32 PM »
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With a legal CB radio, you can expect a rialable range of 1 to 5 miles max under ideal conditions.


And how far up ahead does a trucker need to see or hear a road report from 20 miles? i-5 miles is plenty of time for anybody to do what they need to do, (Ie, slow down, speed up stop, turn off)

If you don't like cb radios, thats your business. but why do you bash the guys in here that use them? I only have one in my truck cause it was there when I got the truck and it still works, and I kind a like it, its more fun than a cell phone or the nextel beep.

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« Reply #41 on: October 31, 2006, 12:44:16 PM »
dmf
 after sunset in west texas at triple digits you cover 20 miles real quick

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« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2006, 12:45:27 PM »
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YIKES!

There is more MIS-information in this thread than bugs at a Sunday picnic.

CB radio CAN be useful, both on the road and for base stations.  Reality is that most mobile operation is both AM, and with VERTICAL (no gain) antennas.  With that setup (1/4 wave vertical and 5 watts) range is limited to 10 miles or less, depending on your elevation and height over average terrain.  Worse yet is that the effeciency of magnet mount antennas is very poor.

Folks who decide to use illegal amps face the wrath of FCC official Riley Hollingsworth, who has been handing out fines (Notice of Apparent Liability) in excess of $10,500 for the last 10 years like CANDY to illegal operators.  They are easy to spot, and usually get reported by the amateur radio community who DO monitor.  

People who operate on frequencies NOT assigned to the CB range stick out like sore thumbs, and are not only easy to triangulate from earth stations, but now the FCC has access to satellites that can easily track it to a specific address.

In the 1970's and 80's, illegal operation was rampant, and the FCC was understaffed and did not have the technology to bust the offenders...that playing field is now totally different.

Worse yet are operators who buy 10 meter ham rigs (without a license) and fire up on amateur radio frequencies...again, EASY to spot, report, and eliminate.

Once the FCC gets involved...plays the digital recording (and spectrum monitor analysis in some cases as illegal signals are WIDE) to the offenders...they most often admit their guilt--have their equipment confiscated and pay a hefty fine.  

There are very easy ways in base operations to increase signal strength and range (up to 150 miles) WITHOUT illegal amps is to use an antenna with GAIN.  My homebrewed 10 meter 6 element quad at 70' (fixed supports facing Europe and the Middle East) cost less than $100, and had a gain of over 20.  My 100 watt signal sounded like 2 KILOWATTS on the other end.  Did VERY well in contests...best DX?....Kazakhstan on the first call.

If your interest is to talk over long distances and meet new people from countries all over the world and have some pretty cool friendships worldwide??--get a ham license.

The test is like anything else, if you study, you will pass.

Why the test?  Your government is entrusting you with both long and short distance communications, and up to 1,500 watts of power.  It's a privilege.  Hams nowadays (post 9/11) handle disaster and emergency communications (9/11, Katrina, etc.) and traffic in and out of places where power and regular telephone communications are down.  Hams can also get additional training via the Armed Forces and handle phone patches and messages for military stationed abroad (M.A.R.S.).

You can also communicate via satellites, repeaters, and computer-based nodes, send Fast and Slow Scan Television.  With VoiP technology, you can log onto computer nodes and talk over repeaters in countries WORLD with with your Aces High headset!  If you don't want to by the new Yaesu 9000 at a pricetag of $10,000--use your computer.  No antenna required.

And for anyone who says Morse code is dead?  Most of the JUICY DX (rare long distance stations) operate CW (Morse code)...a signal that can get through fading, noise, interference, and static where voice communication can't.

One of the most fun Air Warrior things to do was the hams on AW would get on 40 and 80 meters at night with other ham squaddies and use it before we had VOX on that game!


Most any ham will do everything they can to help you get a license, and arrl.org should be your first internet stop if you are interested.  Heck, e-mail me and I will help!

I'd much rather help fellow AH'ers to get a legitimate license rather than see them get fined.  

Is talking on 27.625 LSB with an illegal amp on worth a $10,000 fine?

Respectfully,


ROX

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« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2006, 02:14:21 PM »
If Riley Hollingsworth is so concerned about illegal operators, why doesn't he just set up at any truckstop or weigh station an vulch like a Rook with a new LA-7? Seriously, the FCC is more concerned with Janet Jackson and Howard Stern than it is CB'ers.
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« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2006, 02:17:55 PM »
Please read on:

Literally THOUSANDS of enforcement NAL's...

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/




The second log on that list:

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/2006/1002.html

...busts a CB'er who invaded 10 meters....operating voice in a digital modes only segment, no less.

ROX
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