Kerry "Your educated and smart or your in Iraq"

[lukster]

When a US Senator ridicules our military troops fighting and dying for this country he deserves lasting ridicule himself. No, it is not time to let this pass.

[ScorpCH]

i am 19 years old and yes i did join the military right outta high school. does that make me stupid? well let me just put it this way....

i graduated with a 3.6 gpa and i qualified for the ROTC scholarship.  i turned it down because i chose to carry on a family tradition and join the navy.  i have had 4 uncles, 2 aunts, and a grandfather in the navy.  i could have made it into several colleges but i chose not to.  on another note.  my training school for the military i came in second in my class, with only a .2 difference in the score between me and the top sailor.  i am not 'stupid' by any stretch, clumsy and absent minded sometime (according to my fiance) but not stupid and even she agree's with that.  im am currently attending school during the day to get my associates degree in achitecture on base and i work at night.  

in todays military not only do you have to have a bachelor's degree to be an officer, but you also have to have a bachelor's degree to make cheif (e-9+) and a masters to make master chief.  

and yet another note.....

does anyone know how technicaly advanced our military is these days?

im am a Avaition life support technician in the military and i pack parachutes and work on inflateable items and oxygen components.  whats so technicaly advanced about that you ask?  well on NES-12's we have these is little devices called "SEAWARS". it is a small little explosive that pops the pin out that connects the parachute riser to the pilot's actual harness.  when a pilot hits the water after he ejects the parachute will drag him under if he doesnt disconnect it fast enough.  well these 'seawars' do it for him/her.  they have sensors that detect the seawater and automaticaly go off, succesfully detaching the cute from the pilot.  well as a life support technician i have to be qualified to operate a x-ray machine to take a "photo" of the explosive in the 'seawars'. and thats just a little of what i do, dont even get me started on oxygen components......

some of the men and women i have met in the military in the year that i have been serving are some of the most brilliant men and women i know...

[Vudak]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
Geesh I missed a whole page at work today.

That 99.9 % DOES NOT include GED applicants.  The millitary only accepts a few of those, and ONLY if they have some college credits under their belt.

Maybe as of now, but not as of a few years ago when I was looking into things...

They were just fine and dandy with the thought of taking me: A GED, no college credit.

Again, I think I remember them saying "Get in now, because we aren't taking GED's after such and such a date"

[lazs2]

face it.. he meant what he said and he said it because he thought he was in the company of people who all agreed with him.

If you really want to see what democrats are like then you have to listen to em when they are only talking to each other... they allways pretend to not be liberal eliteists when they are in a mixed crowd.

The truely believe that all the artists and sensitive and smart people are in their camp and that it is their duty to protect the inferior races who can't make it on their own.

The military just plain angers em tho.  To many smart guys with their own education system for their elite.

lazs

[Yeager]

Can you believe the guy apologized so soon.  Dean must have got to him with the harshest of dean screaming.

I was hoping he would shove that foot further and further into his numb skull and give the republicans a boost at the polls.

[lazs2]

not only that but they told him to go hide in the corner and not say a friggin word till the election was over.

oddly.... the "oh so fair" news media is not raking him and the democrats over the coals for this.

lazs

[Flatbar]

Originally posted by lukster
When a US Senator ridicules our military troops fighting and dying for this country he deserves lasting ridicule himself. No, it is not time to let this pass.

It was the other side of the isle who turned his words into something against the troops. His meaning was crystal clear that he was calling GWB an idiot but the right would rather use our troops as pawns in a election year where truth is twisted in the most disgusting way.

Tuesday can't come soon enough, IMO.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Flatbar
It was the other side of the isle who turned his words into something against the troops. His meaning was crystal clear that he was calling GWB an idiot but the right would rather use our troops as pawns in a election year where truth is twisted in the most disgusting way.

Tuesday can't come soon enough, IMO.

No, it's just he did not say it correctly.  

I think he meant to say the President was stupid and got us stuck in Iraq, and then stumbled accross his words.  Kerry said it was a botched joke, so he admitted early on he has mis-spoken.

A botched joke is not crystal clear.

[Shuffler]

No College here.... it's common knowledge that 1 year in the field is worth 4 in college.

I own my very succesful business... partners with my younger brother who didn't graduate High School. He has a GED.

My point, college is not a be all end all. At many colleges now the students are taught by an undergrad while the professor is out chasing grants.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by Flatbar
It was the other side of the isle who turned his words into something against the troops. His meaning was crystal clear that he was calling GWB an idiot but the right would rather use our troops as pawns in a election year where truth is twisted in the most disgusting way.

Tuesday can't come soon enough, IMO.

Bull. By now EVERYONE knows Bush has a better education and got better grades than Kerry. Keep twisting and spinning. It sure as Hell isn't Bush that no one wants to be seen with. Kerry is the one who has had his own party treat him like a leper.

[lukster]

Some are blind not because they can't see but because they won't. Kerry meant what he said and it wasn't the first or even the second time he's slammed the troops.

[dhaus]

Reply to Hilts:  What does that have to do with Kerry calling Bush an idiot?  If you read the speech Kerry was giving, it was all about Bush.  The GOP jumped on a portion of it and distorted it into an insult against the military as a distraction.  It has obviously worked for a few.  Oh, and are you suggesting that the republican candidates aren't running away from Bush?  Take a careful look where and for whom he is campaigning - the races are in solid republican districts that really shouldn't have been in play.  Most republicans in tight races are running away from Bush.  It seems to me that they don't want to be seen with Bush.  One even skipped a fund raiser for her campaign that Bush appeared at.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

dhaus, if you'll just look into Senator Kerry's past, his longtime continual disdain for the U.S. military is obvious. Have you even read what this man has been saying and writing for the past 30 years? Have you heard the things he has accused soldiers of? Do you even listen to what he says? This is the same John Kerry who slandered the U.S. military, and became known as THE "Winter Soldier".

Of course, then again maybe you're correct. After all, the arrogant ******* that Kerry is, he could be stupid enough to talk about the education Bush has, since Bush's acedemic record shows he has had higher grades consistently than Kerry throughout his academic life. That does make sense.

Just keep spinning, Kerry looks dumber with every word typed in his defense. Maybe because it is impossible to defend his stupidity. Don't let that stop you from spinning madly in vain though.

[dhaus]

Nope, not spinning.  Just looked at the speech he gave.  The line was in the midst of a riff on Bush.  When I first heard it, I couldn't believe that the line was considered an insult to the troops, rather than an insult of Bush.  That the GOP would want to distort it into an insult of the troops is understandable.  It worked as a nice distraction.  Like I pointed out in another thread, we're arguing over this rather than why our troops were ordered by the Iraqi prime minister from security barracades in a move to placate militias.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Yes, it is spin. It's such a poor job of spin that even the Democratic party isn't buying it. Only Dean and a couple of hardcore diehards on the far far left are backing Kerry. EVERYONE else in his own part believes he insulted the troops, and they've heard all of his excuses.

Oh, and the removal of the roadblocks DID make frontpage news, even the so called right wing biased sources covered it, extensively. And yes, I think it is foolish on the part of the Iraqi PM, but then I said over two years ago we should never have let al Sadr keep breathing.  But if the Iraqi PM is supposed to be in control, then his orders have to be followed. I don't agree with it, but either we let them control their counrty or we stay there forever as occupiers. His mistake will eventually become evident, even to him, and soon enough.