Kerry "Your educated and smart or your in Iraq"

[lukster]

Originally posted by Urchin
I think by and large that is accurate.  ~30% of the people in the United States have bachelors degrees.  What is the percentage of enlisted personnel with bachelors degrees?

I seem to recall we had a discussion like this not to long ago.  

Don't get me wrong, I think the military is a great option for young people coming out of high school.  I wish I had served coming out of high school, I think I would be a better person than I am now.  

But to castigate the guy for basically saying "College is the way to success".. well, I think that seems harsh.

You need to compare all of the military witth the civilian sector, not just enlisted. Furthermore, you need to include all those who served then got and pursued their education. Kerry is the one being stupid. And, last but not least, education can fix ignorance but not stupidity.

[tapakeg]

It is simply an insult to every American who has ever served our country.

PERIOD!!!

[RedRadr]

Originally posted by Flatbar
He's told that 'joke' at other venues and it came off correctly then, leave it to the wacky righties to twist and distort his words and their meaning, that is all they have and it's getting truly pathetic.

  he oughta just move to france and get it over with...

[Gryffin]

You are all incorrect.

Kerry's quote was not a stab at servicemen/women. It was a stab at Bush. He was saying that bush was uneducated and as a result america has ended up in iraq.

Of course, taking the quote completely out of context makes for a much better sound bite.

http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=44314

[ByeBye]

Originally posted by Gryffin
You are all incorrect.

Kerry's quote was not a stab at servicemen/women. It was a stab at Bush. He was saying that bush was uneducated and as a result america has ended up in iraq.

Of course, taking the quote completely out of context makes for a much better sound bite.

http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=44314

It's doesn't make sense that he was talking about Bush. Bush has a degree from Harvard. It does seem like he was implying that the soldiers are the ones stuck in Iraq. I think Kerry screwed up and now he's trying to squirm out of it.

 I'm sure Kerry didn't mean the comment as a jab at the service men (even though it was), but in his twisted mind he was trying to blame Bush for the demographics of the enlisted ranks. He and a lot of libs like to try and say that he military is exploiting the poor and the uneducated.

Kerry is pretty sickening.

[tapakeg]

The comment was not at all about Bush, that is an back peddling excuse.

He was speaking to students and he said


"You know, education, if YOU make the most of it, YOU study hard, YOU do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, YOU can do well. And if YOU don't, YOU get stuck in Iraq."

I don't see anything in there about President Bush

[Debonair]

i dont see anything in ur post about kerry

not sure if it was clear, but im talking about kerry collins.  
as Vince Young's backup, this is probably the last time you will hear anyone mention him

[Vudak]

Mac, you know, I thought for sure you were wrong.  Went out looking at the Constitution thinking "of course the separation of church and state is in there!"

But...  No, it isn't!

I guess I've just heard the lie so many times that it became truth

(I still think Separation of Church and State is a good thing, though).

[ROC]

Ok, I'm confused.  Considering Bush got better grades in college than Kerry did, does that make Kerry more ignorant than he is accusing Bush of being?  If that's the case, Kerry cannot possibly be right and has proven Bush to be correct by virtue of his own arguments.

What I Really don't understand is how Kerry can suggest, let's say he wasn't backpedaling, that Iraq was the wrong thing to do.  Kerry stated before that even knowing what he knows now, would he "still" have voted in favor of the Iraq War and he said Yes.  Was That just a campaign ploy?  He didn't really mean that?

He has no credibility, whatsoever.

[midnight Target]

Separation of church and state is written in the constitution just as clearly as the right of every individual American to keep and bear arms without restriction.

[Vudak]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Separation of church and state is written in the constitution just as clearly as the right of every individual American to keep and bear arms without restriction.

Well, yeah.  That's the problem with my whole "strict interpretation" rant lol.

[Yeager]

Nowhere in the second amendment is the word "restriction" to be found?

Not to argue the point, but Im sure some lawyer somewhere will argue that you can restrict specifically without infringing generally

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Separation of church and state is written in the constitution just as clearly as the right of every individual American to keep and bear arms without restriction.

Wrong. But then, you knew that.

The Constitution, more specifically the Bill of Rights, says the government shall not establish a religion. It also says that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Context clearly shows that the first is in reference to the Church of England, which was established by the King of England because he (the government in this case) wanted a church he could control and deal with. And the second is in reference to the King of England's attempt to disarm the colonists.

[storch]

the separation of church and state was a sentence in a letter jefferson wrote to weezie.  the right to bear arms is granted to all bruins, sheesh you liberals are really sad.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by Vudak
Mac, you know, I thought for sure you were wrong.  Went out looking at the Constitution thinking "of course the separation of church and state is in there!"

But...  No, it isn't!

I guess I've just heard the lie so many times that it became truth

(I still think Separation of Church and State is a good thing, though).

Hey, that's a mistake more people than not have made in recent years.

I don't think even the most conservative of us believes the church should have any control over the government. However, I don't think that most people want God eliminated from anything remotely connected to the government either. And I don't see ANY evidence that the people who WROTE the Constitution or any of the original amendments known as the Bill of Rights thought it was a good idea either.