Author Topic: FW190 recovered in Norway (Read 2371 times)

Krusty · « **Reply #60 on:** November 02, 2006, 01:07:14 PM »

Sweet2th, I've known about them for a while. Yes, I know they use the original plans.

I just meant they add new things. They have modern technological advances designed to make it a functioning (modern) private plane. Rather than an accurate representation of what the real thing was. Sure there are a lot of similarities, but to me, it's not the same.

EDIT: Sorry if I came off as argumentative in the last post. My personal opinion is that flugwerk's work (while great in its own right) isn't exactly the same as building a true-to-spec warbird. Sorry if I wasn't very clear.

Sweet2th · « **Reply #61 on:** November 02, 2006, 01:12:27 PM »

well i would rather have anew one than an original.There's something about having a plane that was used against the Allies in WW2 that makes me not want to own one.The FW-190 was one of the best aircraft ever made and i would rather have a (private) version.

I understand Krusty believe me i do.Those aircraft were made during war time and with todays metal's and fabrication technology's i would prefer a new one.

Krusty · « **Reply #62 on:** November 02, 2006, 01:16:47 PM »

I remember reading an article/story about a private pilot that recalls seeing one of the butt-ugliest 1/2 scale replicas of a Stuka at an air show once. he recalls watching it taxi past or something.

Biggest problem (to me) is finding a decent engine. Some folks went through a LOT of trouble to re-build a 109 from a kit or something, and ended up putting a dinky engine in, it looked like a Bf108 tailfun rather than a 109. Totally trashed the entire look/feel of the ride.

They need to start making plane engines for warbirds. Make them the same SIZE even if not the same power. That would be cool.

EDIT: accidentally submitted before I was ready, the edit finished the post

Sweet2th · « **Reply #63 on:** November 02, 2006, 02:59:43 PM »

Krusty you need to check into that site i posted more deeply, they are using Allison engines in all thier remakes now.

Fencer51 · « **Reply #64 on:** November 02, 2006, 03:47:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
Now if we could get Alan Bunte's 4th FG P51B out of the lake near Postsdam......

Why the heck are we sitting here! Lets go!

Guppy35 · « **Reply #65 on:** November 02, 2006, 03:54:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Fencer51
Why the heck are we sitting here! Lets go!

It's been my dream recovery since I first read about it back in the 70s in 1000 Destroyed. I've seen the MACR for it and found all i can about it. Other folks claim to be on the hunt for it over there too.

But I've never heard or seen anything since.

The 7th AF guys are hunting for a combat P51D "Sparkin Eyes" that went into the deep part of a Japanese lake too. They are at least to the fund raising point and actively hunting. Pilot for that one is still living so they hope to get it before he's gone. They actually have the Japanese Zero pilots association helping them.

That's a profile i did for em on their news letter

http://www.7thfighter.com/newsletter/sunsetter_fall_2006.pdf

Viking · « **Reply #66 on:** November 06, 2006, 05:27:21 PM »

The article linked to in the original post mentions that the plane was not in combat as the cannon covers were still on. Also that witnesses said they saw the pilot jettison the canopy and make a controlled ditch. The pilot was dragged down with the plane but managed to get free and was picked up by a fishing boat.

Fishu · « **Reply #67 on:** November 06, 2006, 08:43:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Charge
"Looking at that 190-A's in Norway page that someone linked, im stunned to see how many were lost to non-combat reasons like hard landings, or engine failures etc. I only saw a small handfull which were lost in combat. Or it that page not representative of the real picture?"

I'd say that at that time all old FWs were moved to fronts with less significance and especially the first batch of FWs still had the problems they had in the beginning, so their numbers lost in accidents due to mechanical problems (i.e. overheating etc.) probably remained high throughout their service life. Also the weather could be really bad in Norway so many weather caused forced landings because of running out of fuel were probably referred just as ditches.

Accidents were a significant cause of operational losses in the WWII. Pilot errors, mechanical problems, weather..
I can't remember exact figures but accidents caused an impressive amount of losses to air forces around the world.

scottydawg · « **Reply #68 on:** November 06, 2006, 09:15:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
Now they are suggesting it's an A3.

129 more photos found at:

http://www.luftwaffe.no/wreck/index.htm

Great profile done of it too.

Man that thing needs a powerwash bad. It's gonna stink like heck after a couple of days out of the water.

They need to at least try to get it flying. The 'Butcher Bird' is an awesome aircraft.