Bad Monkey

[Kev367th]

Originally posted by Overlag
exactly what quiet a flew of us have been saying for a few weeks now...... but its as if we are banging our heads against a brick wall.

Works almost anytime of the day -

8.00pm EST

LW1
Bish 98
Knit 91
Rook 131

LW2
Bish 76
Knit 95
Rook 59

Totalled -
Bish 174
Knit 186
Rook 190

Overall 16 player advantage against lowest is nothing with the overall totals.

However -
LW1- a 33 player advantage against nearest side, 40 against lowest
LW2 - a 19 player advantage against nearest side, 36 against lowest

[bj229r]

Alas, only rooks seem to like EW and MW

[DamnedRen]

Hmmmm...head bangers convention...which bands are playing?

Actually, what makes you think that just because approx 400-500 people would rather fly in a large arena and under 100 inhabat two other arena's that there should be only one? Inquiring minds wanna know.

bj229r,

B-landers flew RR in another life, too~!

Ren
The Damned

[bj229r]

Originally posted by DamnedRen
Hmmmm...head bangers convention...which bands are playing?

Actually, what makes you think that just because approx 400-500 people would rather fly in a large arena and under 100 inhabat two other arena's that there should be only one? Inquiring minds wanna know.

bj229r,

B-landers flew RR in another life, too~!

Ren
The Damned

Where did I say that? All I said was Rooks get arse kicked in LW because Nits and Bish, by and large, dont fly in EW and MW-- and vast majority of folks in AH immediately go after the weak target. I dont see where it much fun on either side of such an equation==either ya get bowled over by a 30 plane horde, or your are ONE of the 30 planes hopin to vulch the one guy who ups over and over at a porked base. Somewhere in the middle is heap much more fun

[Zanth]

Originally posted by Kev367th
Who hits who depends on which country is closest to being reset

You are of course exactly right.

The game encourages, even rewards, "ganging".  These two things in paricular tend to focus people on the result rather than the journey, the ends rather than the means. :

- The reset perk prize.  

- Secondly, score is not affected in any way by how you get the numbers.  3 kills while on a "ganging" side pay the same as 3 kills on the "victim" side.  3 kills in a la7 are the same as 3 kills in a 202. etc etc

These two elements are powerful incentives for many to gravitate to the larger side, regardless of the arena.

[lazs2]

LW?   Sounds like all the guys who have to have all the advantages have simply went to the LW which is.... simply the old ma on a smaller scale...

given choice of which side to be on and which planes to fly... a lot of guys will pick the best planes and the side with the most numbers but...

as oldman says... what's the problem?   isn't this like "real" war?  isn't this the way to take bases and win the hawiian vacation?

If you don't like fighting superior numbers and late war planes at alt... go to the mid or early war... leave those guys to play with themelves in the mini MA.

one slum was taken away from these guys so they created another...It is their nature.

lazs
Public Relaitons Officer for the BK's

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by lazs2
LW?   Sounds like all the guys who have to have all the advantages have simply went to the LW which is.... simply the old ma on a smaller scale...

given choice of which side to be on and which planes to fly... a lot of guys will pick the best planes and the side with the most numbers but...

as oldman says... what's the problem?   isn't this like "real" war?  isn't this the way to take bases and win the hawiian vacation?

If you don't like fighting superior numbers and late war planes at alt... go to the mid or early war... leave those guys to play with themelves in the mini MA.

one slum was taken away from these guys so they created another...It is their nature.

lazs
Public Relaitons Officer for the BK's

  Beautiful!

[Patches1]

If you don't like fighting superior numbers and late war planes at alt... go to the mid or early war... leave those guys to play with themelves in the mini MA.

This is exactly what I have done...and it has tripled my fun factor!

[Kev367th]

Originally posted by lazs2

If you don't like fighting superior numbers and late war planes at alt... go to the mid or early war... leave those guys to play with themelves in the mini MA.

lazs
Public Relaitons Officer for the BK's

Strange, usually the Rooks have the majority of players in the MW, except on Mondays nights for a short time.

So if you like fighting against superior numbers with mid war planes and alt goto the MW arena.

As usual Lazs hasn't a frickin clue what he's on about.

[Guppy35]

Here's the solution.

Quit worrying about it.  Folks will or won't change depending on their state of mind.

It's still just a game.  You get back what you put into it as far as I can tell.
I'm going to do what I enjoy and figure that others will do the same.  Will it always be the way i want it?  Doubtful.


That being said, I'll be the green trimmed 38G, on the low numbers side, probably below the bad guys, working on my evil plan to scatter 38G parts over all the arenas

[Kev367th]

Originally posted by Guppy35
Here's the solution.

Quit worrying about it.  Folks will or won't change depending on their state of mind.

It's still just a game.  You get back what you put into it as far as I can tell.
I'm going to do what I enjoy and figure that others will do the same.  Will it always be the way i want it?  Doubtful.


That being said, I'll be the green trimmed 38G, on the low numbers side, probably below the bad guys, working on my evil plan to scatter 38G parts over all the arenas

LOL

Actually what is more worrying than the arena changes -

1) Lack of updates
2) Lack of patches/fixes
3) Skins - Went from weekly, to bi-weekly, to monthly, to God knows when.

Seems like Classic AH is being back burnered in favor of CT.

[workerbee]

Originally posted by Kev367th
LOL


Seems like Classic AH is being back burnered in favor of CT.

Lets Hope!

[lazs2]

well kev...  If you go to early or mid war you don't have to go to the side that has the most numbers.   Or... like the rest of us.. you can go to any side but look for the areas where there are the most even fights.

Local superiority of numbers is far more of a problem than overall numbers in the early and mid war arenas.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

[Major Biggles]

Originally posted by Kev367th
Seems like Classic AH is being back burnered in favor of CT.

which would lead me into the train of thought that they're really making progress. personally, i wouldn't be surprised if it is released soon, or atleast open beta

[SlapShot]

Just shows the changes HAVEN'T done anything to make things 'fairer' or even better for the LW arenas, if anything it's 100 times worse.

I didn't think that any of the changes were made to make things "fairer".

The first/original change was implemented to reduce the population capacity of arenas because of "community" concerns by HT and Company, along with setting up different arenas with different plane sets for a future influx of people. No mention of making things "fairer" from all that I read.

The second change ... alternating dynamic-max arena capacity of the 2 LW arenas. This change was done to try and equally distribute LW flyers across the 2 arenas ... this was done due to the massive wailing by some that the LW1 was maxed at 250 and only a hand full of participants were flying in LW2. I don't remember this being implemented as a tool to make things "fairer" ... it was just a distribution tool.

HT could make things "fairer" real easy ... like Battlefield 2142 ... the server puts you were it decides to ... to even out the sides. Is that what you/we want ?

Making things "fairer" can only be done by us ... if we want to still have some choices in AH.

It is quite obvious that people in LW arenas are making their decisions ... and really don't include "fairer" in their decision process. EW and MW do suffer too in this regard, but it is much more magnified in the LW arenas.

My idea that I brought forth, would help to make things "fairer" in the LW arenas, but it would still require people to make a "choice" to make things "fairer" ... but at least they would still have a choice and I believe a lot would make that choice.