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Offline FiLtH

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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2006, 06:14:40 PM »
Im afraid I don't have a good eye for photos. Your pics on the artificial turf with the crisp bright uniforms do look better to me. The Legends backgrounds don't look as good. Maybe if they were taken on turf they would seem better. But overall your pics look like something in a sports magazine, and theirs looks like Mom took them with her personal camera.

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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2006, 06:47:35 PM »
You guys are so supportive...you rock! :aok I feel like I handled the situation alittle gruff and perhaps I'll follow up with an apology email for my gruffness and explain my passion for good quality photography, but in the meantime, I'll cool off for a bit. This gig would have been excellent exposure for my business partner and I. She is trying to make this a full time job while I'm just doing it to pay for the expensive hobby that photography can be, so I'm just alittle sore that we got snuffed by a "chain" org that hires photographers by the hour, who don't really have any interest in the quality of the shot since they are hourly.

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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2006, 07:46:32 PM »
I wouldn't say it was gruff; I'd say a little tacky. Telling someone (who isn't even the decision maker in this case) that they made a bad decision because you said so isn't going to help you.

Since it's a hobby for you, getting mad won't help you. You start getting too emotional about the business part and you'll lose the fun part that made it your hobby to begin with. You can't get angry if you're viewed as amateurs since you don't use a contract and probably do this from your house... ;)

Aggressive sales is fine, but that means smart-aggressive (sophisticated-passive aggressive with product/service professionalism), not sniping at your competitors and chest thumping to the prospect. There is no greater turn-off. It's like screaming, "Buy me! Buy me!" when being a little quieter will make people listen and look.

If you're so great, why aren't you guys famous, rich and have a huge chain of stores yourself, right? Let your photos and previous customers do the hard core selling.

You aren't going to quit your job to do it full-time (I guess), but might be able to do more when you retire. If you're an exempt employee, you must already know that you're as high as you'll go anyway since you're not worried that moonlighting is the kiss of death in large organizations, expressly prohibited or not.

Anyway, you have a good eye for what you're doing. Why not stick to improving and enjoying that and stay positive and direct in your correspondance and sales. Good luck, but I realize this may be very hard for you to do. You, uh, crow about everything and scream, "Look at me! Look at me!" so taping your beak shut and letting your partner handle the business part (since she's the one who wants to do it full-time) might be worth thinking about. :D

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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2006, 08:10:15 PM »
Rip, I looked at the pics from the "Legends" web site and you are right. Those pics suck.

Your pics are a lot better and you do have a good eye for what you do. Also, you care about the sport and know what looks good and what is just a crappy snapshot.

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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2006, 12:36:59 AM »
Let the customers be your voice.  Once they see the enomrous difference in quality, they'll certainly want to tell someone.  Advise them whom to direct their complaints to

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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2006, 07:27:09 AM »
It was bound to happen sooner or later... I agree with Rolex.

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« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2006, 10:04:39 AM »
Rip,

I think your note was appropriate if a bit aggressive, but don't worry about it.  You were professional and backed it up with examples of why you're right.  If they decide they want to work with you, they'll call.  In the meantime, work on whatever you have to do in order to be considered next time.

Your pictures are pretty good so you should do fine.  It sounds like it's well past the hobby stage, so at some point you have to go out and sell your product.

I would not send an apology, however an inquiry or proposal concerning future events might be appropriate.  Plus, you might consider showing up at those events covered by the other photographer, and sending a few samples to the guy so he can see what you *would have done* had you been the official photographer covering the event.  Keep the message fairly light and in terms of showing him a representative portfolio that just happened to be taken during an event covered by someone else, and you probably won't get busted :)
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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2006, 12:28:42 AM »
Just received this email today! Looks like we on for the Soccer Tourney! There is a good chance that we'll get published in local sports publications for this event as well!




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I have just today received notification from Legends Photography that they will not be doing the District finals tournament photos.
 
If you are still available and want to consider this activity, pls let me know.
 
I will be meeting at Starfire today at 10:30AM if you want to coordinate on site.
 
Note that the NWAACC tournament is also the same days and location so it could be another opportunity.
 
Thanks,
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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2006, 12:31:06 AM »
wtfg

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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2006, 01:07:30 AM »
hooray for business follow-up :)
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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2006, 01:07:55 AM »
Ripsnort.. Why do you use a shade account when contacting your potential customers? "Brian"... hehe.


Anyway "Brian"... you take far better pictues than the chain so you should have a good chanse at getting the job unless they do a background check on you. :)

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« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2006, 08:58:31 AM »
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Ripsnort.. Why do you use a shade account when contacting your potential customers? "Brian"... hehe.


Anyway "Brian"... you take far better pictues than the chain so you should have a good chanse at getting the job unless they do a background check on you. :)
LMAO!!!

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« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2006, 02:53:40 PM »
Just a silly thought...

Why post this guys name you're trying to do business with here?