Processor Overclocking

[SkyChimp03]

Originally posted by dragon25
OK......

Computer has following specs...

Processor
2.00 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64 (3200+ model)

Main Board
Board: ASUSTek Computer INC. Amberine M 1.03
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz



Thanx 4 the help and all the links, guys!

Originally posted by Kev367th
Try updated BIOS from mobo website.

Note -
All AMD 64's apart from the FX are locked.

You can usually lower the multiplier but not increase it.

Best way to get a boost is to lower multiplier settings enough to get the 'fsb' (I know), up to 250, with overall speed close to the orignal.

Then set HTT to 250

Then fit DDR500 memory.


E.g for mine (been thinking about it)

2.2 GHz AMD X2 4400

Setting 'fsb' to 250 with a multiplier of 9 = 2.25Ghz (instead of default 200 * 11)

Now tricky part on mine -
HTT at 1000 = default 200fsb x 5,
HTT at 800 = defualt 200fsb x 4
Therefore I would set HTT to 800 which would actually equal 250 x 4=1000 (max HTT speed)
Then fit some DDR500

Most nice performance increases are made by dropping the multiplier and increasing the FSB.

I do belive you can unlock them....

But make sure you have a really nice heatsink/airflow or liquid cooling if you plan really OC:aok

[Shamus]

Originally posted by dragon25
OK......

Computer has following specs...

Processor
2.00 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64 (3200+ model)

Main Board
Board: ASUSTek Computer INC. Amberine M 1.03
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz



Thanx 4 the help and all the links, guys!

I think that is a Compac/HP board.

I had a Compac once and the bios didnt allow much in the way of tweaking.

You may have to check out the manufacturers forums to find out what you can do.

shamus

[Kev367th]

Skychimp -

AMD 64's, are locked in the sense you cant increase the multiplier, you can only set it lower.

The only truly unlocked ones are the FX series.

[38ruk]

Originally posted by dragon25
OK......

Computer has following specs...

Processor
2.00 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64 (3200+ model)

Main Board
Board: ASUSTek Computer INC. Amberine M 1.03
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz



Thanx 4 the help and all the links, guys!

Is this a manufactured pc , or did you (or someone else ) build it ?. Lets start there .

[38ruk]

Originally posted by Mr No Name
Not flaming you bud, but if you are asking this question... PLEASE... Leave it alone!

So not asking and screwing with it anyways is a better solution?  Overclocking isnt the evil that alot of people make it out to be . If you take your time and readup (or ask questions ) it can be alot of fun . I learned more about how pc's worked from years of overclocking than out of any other A+/mcse book ive ever read .

[Roscoroo]

I'm with Rukieee on this , do the study ,,, on your own 1st .
learn whats entailed  in over clocking. learn about the components and mutiplyer settings .   then ask a hundred questions .. but always beshure you give the exact hardware specs of your pc ... there just too many of them to say oh tweek this like this and that like that  ... each one is different even with the same hardware.
 you can find one that likes a high mutiplyer setting and another that likes its Ram pushed harder  to achieve the same results .   its hard to toast hardware unless it over heats ..  thats why we all push the Temp specs befor during and after OCing .    
Ram is the next thing is it up to the needed quality/ speed or is it the cheap generic stuff ? ... ive never maintained a good OC with cheap ram . its always taken Corsair or crucial  to get my best OC's  and even that has gone bad befor from heat ..     OCZ seams to be good ram too but ive never used it .  

 it can be alot of fun to OC, but just like a race car you dont know what will break until you push it hard.

[bj229r]

I'm not sure what ya hope to gain--I also have a 3200, with a 2 year old FX5700 256 meg vid card, EVERY graphic detail maxed, and I get constant 59 frames (had higher before I had to roll back Nvidea drivers to the....66 somethin? lockups)

[dragon25]

What I hope to accomplish....

Better performance....But, a post someone left got me to thinking....OK, I have 256 mB SHARED video mem, /w a total of 1.5 Gig system mem. I want to be able to run the game /w the visual affects maxed (or close to it.) Ok, so instead of overclocking the CPU, which sounds like a risky propisition if you don't know what you're doin, what about buying a descnt video card? Would that help? I looked @ the Frame Rate/ Spec display during game play, and the game wouldn't be using all the video ram the computer had allocated (256 MB)


Again, thanx for everyone's help and advice!

 !

[Schutt]

I have the same processor as you have, run 2Gig RAM and a Geforce 7900GS. Also i have trouble with my motherboard (onboard lan acting up, i use a pci card instead) which leads me to running 2 pci cards (sound & lan). That might cost me some frames, and its verry well possible that with the Athlon64 3200 others get better frame rates.

Cant run on full details, but on decent details with 512 textures and 1280x1024 resolution (which is native for my Display). Also running with AA set pretty high, since it doesnt make a diffrence with that card.

The card currently goes for 170€... need a good power supply but not that bad since its a "derated" card compared to the top 7950GT.


There are a lot of diffrent options on graphic cards... anything from 100$ to 600$, but make sure it fits your case & motherboard before you buy it. Some are pretty long and dont fit into smaller cases from the length. Others (like 7900GS in most versions) need a slot free next to the Graphic board slot, and wont fit if that slot is occupied.
Sometimes also conectors or parts of the motherboard block the space for long/wide graphic cards.

cu schutt

[Nemeth]

dragon25, in game the most Vid RAM ive seen taken is about 64Mb (could b more or less thou)  so really all you need is 128 MB allocated for AH, but if you really want to improve you FR, id suggest just getting a Vid card.  This not only frees up your RAM but it also takes a load off the processor.

I have a AMD Athalon 2000+ (1.66 Ghz) with 1Gb of ram and a 128 MB nVidia GFx 5200 and it runs AH @ 1280x1024, 1024 Textures w/ hires updates, and all visualizations except object detail @ 100% @ 30-40 FPS

The computer i am on now is a AMD Semperon 3300+ (2.207Ghz)  NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU 32MB allocated (havnt had AH go above 32MB on this comp yet usually sits around 23 Mb) 352MB ram (128MB 166Mhz, 256MB 266Mhz) and i can only run AH at 1024x768, 128MB textures, object detail 50% and I only get 15-30 FPS

This is when my Vid memory clock is at 267Mhz (norm) i get 15-30 FPS, when i clock it at 680Mhz i usually get 18-35 FPS, so far the highest ive clocked it is 1.01Ghz and it usually sits at 20-40 FPS.

BTW i am kinda new to overclocking, all this has done to my comp is raise the temp from bout 25-27C (dont ask for F from me IDK F) to 28-30C while not gaming,  while gaming the temp raises from 30-34C not OC'd and 32-37C OC'd (HWDoctor chip is built onto my motherboard, tells all the V's, [eg. Vcore, , VTT, +3.3V, ect.] CPU fan RPM, CPU temp)