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Offline devil956

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« on: November 28, 2006, 07:15:03 PM »
hell if there arent nookies then give us the tallboy and 22,000lb grand slam bombs the 2 largest bombs ever used in ww2 by the lancasters.:aok

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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2006, 07:43:33 PM »
I have tried making that argument in several other threads, most notably and recently in the post about bomb and auger buff drivers in General Discussions, but also in other threads regarding the hinted at perked ord system that is incoming.....someday....


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Solution #2 - Go Bigger: Perkable Maximum Ord Load Options.

Allow pilots to use perks to load their buffs with the maximum ordance they could carry. Figure a cost per plane of about twice what they can earn from a typical successful mission. Multiple that across three planes in a flight, factor in failed missions, and this will limit how often buff drivers can run with max loadout.
Cons: The heavy loads with these planes on many of the game maps runways will result in overloaded buffs hanging in trees and imbedded into hillsides from failed take offs. Slower to alt. Slower speeds.

In game B-17 carries a maximum of 6,000 lbs (2721kg) of bombs. Normal bomb loads in europe were 4,000-5,000 lbs. Maximum bomb load carried was 8,000 lbs (3628 kg) and the furthest the max load was carried was to to Nienburg. To do this, internal fuel cells in the bomb bays were removed... which for game purposes would limit fuel load to 3/4 of max. ** Unsure code can allow for this **

In game B-24 carried up to 8,000 lbs, which was the historical max carried to Karlsruhe. Theoretical max was 12,800, but this was impractical. Normal loads were 5,000 lbs.

In game Lanc III carries up to 14,000 lbs (6350 kg) of bombs, which was the rated max. B1 Specials could carry the 21 foot (6.4 m) long 12,000 lb (5,448 kg) 'Tallboy' or 25.5 foot (7.77 m) long 22,000 lb (9,979 kg) "Grand Slam" "earthquake" bombs. This required modification of the bomb-bay doors and limited the operational range to 660 miles. *** Could game code correctly model a Tallboy or Gland Slam blast effect?*** Tallboy or Grand Slam would have to be especially expensive,.... and a lone, slow, Lanc will attract all kinds of attention.

In-game Ju-88 can carry 6613 lbs (3,000 kg) which is already more than sources I've read mention for this particular bird.

In-game Ki-67 can carry up to 1760 lbs (800kg) of ord, which is a normal bomb load. Maximum I've found lists 2,359 lbs, and up to 6,000 lbs on those used as Kamakazis.

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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2006, 07:46:54 PM »
ya mean like this ?
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2006, 09:11:45 PM »
I believed somewhere HTC said that the only biggest bomb were going to get is the Lancaster 4,000 pounder. But grandslam would be nice, but would make the lancaster a slow moving target. Heck why not it kinda evens it out.
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2006, 11:28:02 PM »
hell i can hardly take off with a full ord load and 50% fuel

if the 2x fuel is in effect in the MA then this thing would never take off

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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2006, 12:34:42 AM »
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hell i can hardly take off with a full ord load and 50% fuel

if the 2x fuel is in effect in the MA then this thing would never take off



Yep... same goes for the rest of the buffs if they allowed to load a maximum bomb load for spending some buff perks..... buff drivers would occassionaly hang their planes in the trees, or imbed them into hillsides shortly after takeoff.

It is a trade off, but looking for ways to use those buff perks, and encourage buff drivers to actually land their planes after a mission.  Right now, why bother, lot's of us have a couple thousand perks.... and we are not all spending them on Arados.

With fuel at 2X... and range of a Special with a 22,000 bomb being 660 miles, that gives you an in-arena operational range of 3 sectors, or a one way range of 6.... at most... probably less if crawling toward alt.

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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2006, 01:39:10 PM »
Bronk,

That is a very well done fake.

It would be nice to see it as a perk ordnance though.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2006, 06:38:21 PM »
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Bronk,

That is a very well done fake.

It would be nice to see it as a perk ordnance though.




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