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Offline twitchy

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« Reply #360 on: November 30, 2006, 04:03:36 PM »
And I'm not telling anybody to do anything except leave us alone and let us play the way we want to play. If you like furballing, furball. If you like base taking, take bases. I don't see the problem here that needed fixing so bad except the furballers whinning because the rest of us don't want to be crammed into a few bases.
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« Reply #361 on: November 30, 2006, 04:07:02 PM »
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It's the fourth book of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series written by Douglas Adams. Its title is the message left by the dolphins when they departed Planet Earth just before it was demolished to make way for a hyperspatial express route.



You know the best part is that all this time the dolphins were actually trying to warn earthlings of the impending doom with all their acrobatic antics.  If I remember correctly they performed some last amazing stunt for humans as a final warning at which we just aww'ed and clapped.

Funny thing, maybe Adams is right.  Judging by this thread we humans maybe are really that stupid :).

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« Reply #362 on: November 30, 2006, 04:08:26 PM »
To be perfectly honest, many of us enjoy hunting down milkrunners and basetaking hordes, so in telling us to leave you alone so you can milkrun in peace, you are telling us to do something we don't enjoy.
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« Reply #363 on: November 30, 2006, 04:09:40 PM »
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You know the best part is that all this time the dolphins were actually trying to warn earthlings of the impending doom with all their acrobatic antics.  If I remember correctly they performed some last amazing stunt for humans as a final warning at which we just aww'ed and clapped.

Funny thing, maybe Adams is right.  Judging by this thread we humans maybe are really that stupid :).

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maybe it was the dolphins and whales distracting the germans so that the "ally's" could land in normandy with no resistance?

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« Reply #364 on: November 30, 2006, 04:13:16 PM »
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maybe it was the dolphins and whales distracting the germans so that the "ally's" could land in normandy with no resistance?


HA! :D

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« Reply #365 on: November 30, 2006, 04:20:21 PM »
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Moaning? Crying? This is the kind of mature feedback you guys base the opinions of the player community on. :aok
No Wonder...


     How am I supposed to describe the immature whining and name calling
I heard/saw last night?  Like kindergarten night at the UN.
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« Reply #366 on: November 30, 2006, 04:21:49 PM »
looking at the situation now in game

Bish 76   68 fields
knits 58  84 fields
rooks 73 103 fields

Bish can capture
A75 V43 C24 C30 C62 C82 A83 C87 V110 C119 C162 C171
C201 C242 C244 A67 V32

2 Airfields  3 Vbases 11 CV's (C82 is already Bish????? think it's a bug)

It's not really what i'd call Flexible

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« Reply #367 on: November 30, 2006, 04:23:20 PM »
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twitchy: Know where in any of your post did I happen to see you say I love just looking for people attacking and then go defend a base. In fact I do not believe I have seen anyone post "defending open bases is there favorite way of playing".

So you are telling people to do stuff that no one has said that they enjoy doing.

Hence why the test we are doing.


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Actually guys like Lazs and myself enjoyed last nights base defense. Lazs stuck around 34 longer that I did but he racked up a bunch of kills while 34 was still on the "takeable" list.

I think he liked the idea of guys having to come to him or try to get thru him and they couldn't give up coming back because they needed to take the base. Prior to this system, they would have given up and run to an undefended base.
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« Reply #368 on: November 30, 2006, 04:24:05 PM »
One thing that seems to be overlooked is that both HT and Pyro have not only designed, but played these games for longer than 99 percent of the people here. I have played these since at least 1994, and I can tell you that the environment found in the recent previous MA is not the one they cut their teeth on by any means (at least it wasn't when I started).  That changed in the AW gamestorm era in the late 1990s and recently here in AH, for much the same infrastructure, human nature, and numbers of new players influence. Huge maps, win the war, little structure to centralize the fight, path of least resistance gameplay, etc.

Oddly, the model they are putting in place here works to create that earlier environment -- where you could take bases and win the war, but where you have to fight your way in -- by and large. Now perhaps, just perhaps, this is no accident, or no pandering to "furballers" but a knowledge of how much fun the "fight" can be if it is encouraged. Where a "furballer" will actually support a "toolshedder" if there's action to be found.

The upside, is that it the old way, the fighting way, was a total blast. I may even start playing some notable hours again if it pans out, instead of waiting for the CT and grinding though Rome Total War. Have to see this weekend how the changes work out in play.

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« Reply #369 on: November 30, 2006, 04:24:42 PM »
I wasn't too impressed for the three hours I was in Orange last night. No bases taken. Bombers passing over the base once in a while at 4K. Occasional field attempt. No where to take a GV.  Didn't have to worry about jumping to defend other bases. Finally went to a different arena.

AirQuakers liked it I guess from all the Hootin' and Hollerin' they have been doing on the board. Gives them lots of baby seals in a concentrated area to kill I suppose....


i dont got enough perkies as it is and i like upen my lancs to kill 1 dang t 34 or wirble its fun droping 42 bombs

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« Reply #370 on: November 30, 2006, 04:26:11 PM »
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looking at the situation now in game

Bish 76   68 fields
knits 58  84 fields
rooks 73 103 fields

Bish can capture
A75 V43 C24 C30 C62 C82 A83 C87 V110 C119 C162 C171
C201 C242 C244 A67 V32

2 Airfields  3 Vbases 11 CV's (C82 is already Bish????? think it's a bug)

It's not really what i'd call Flexible


I think what he meant was that the "system" has been defined to be flexible enough for them to change/tweak the list on a system level.
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« Reply #371 on: November 30, 2006, 04:26:24 PM »
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To be perfectly honest, many of us enjoy hunting down milkrunners and basetaking hordes, so in telling us to leave you alone so you can milkrun in peace, you are telling us to do something we don't enjoy.

No, I'm telling you to play the game the way you want to play it, and I'll play the game the way I want to play it. Why cater to either school of thought here when both are represented already? If you want to furball, there's a furball somewhere. If you want to take a base, there's plenty to be had.
Think of it like this. Hitech makes pizza, all kinds of pizza.  But half of us like supreme, half of us like just pepperoni, as it is right now, you can order either. Everybody is served, everybody is happy. Anyway you like it, its already there. You start just selling just pepperoni, eventually the people that like supreme pizza are going to stop buying pizza there. It's pretty damned arrogant to tell me I have to eat pepperoni because thats what you like it otherwise I'm somehow your lesser.
Somwhere on the map in the Blue Arena, right now, is a furball. Somewhere also on the map in the blue arena is a couple guys trying to take a base. It's fine the way it is. It really is ok. You can take bases, OR you can furball. Why screw that up? Because some people on the BB like to furball? What about the rest of us?
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« Reply #372 on: November 30, 2006, 04:34:34 PM »
They're still serving both kinds of pizza, you just have to eat in the cafeteria with everyone else now.
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« Reply #373 on: November 30, 2006, 04:38:14 PM »
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And I'm not telling anybody to do anything except leave us alone and let us play the way we want to play. If you like furballing, furball. If you like base taking, take bases. I don't see the problem here that needed fixing so bad except the furballers whinning because the rest of us don't want to be crammed into a few bases.


Twitchy.  Why are you so determined to make the two mutually exclusive of each other?

Leave me alone so i can take a base.  Go furball somewhere else.

Fight for the flippen base will ya?  They pretty much all look the same.  Can't believe the undefended ones are that much different, other then no one is there to shoot at ya.
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« Reply #374 on: November 30, 2006, 04:38:17 PM »
Could try it this way with large maps

The more Fields captured the more fields that country holds can be captured


40%of the fields in hand 40% open for capture (opens the back door)

10% of the fields in hand 10% open for capture ( gives country a chance to defend & more of a chance to attack somewhere else)

could try it with Numbers aswell