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Offline ByeBye

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« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2006, 01:04:27 AM »
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I guess we all know the step-by-step events on what lead nazi Germany and fascist Italy to go on a World Conquest (TM).  I still have vague idea on Japan and what caused Japan to join the axis bandwagon...:huh


What do you mean? Is there any event that justifies a country to go  on a world conquest rampage?

If there is justification for a country attemping to take over the world, then there must be justification for A-Bombing that country into submission.

The Japanese reaped what they sowed. No tears from me. They got what they deserved.
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« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2006, 01:21:26 AM »
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I guess we all know the step-by-step events on what lead nazi Germany and fascist Italy to go on a World Conquest (TM).  I still have vague idea on Japan and what caused Japan to join the axis World Conquest (TM) bandwagon...:huh


They thought that they could destroy, or at least SEVERELY CRIPPLE the US Fleet based in PH.   They figured if they succeeded, it would give them 6-12 months to grab the Dutch Oil Fields, and build a stout defensive perimeter.   They thought that by doing so, we would Declare War and get frustrated with "the said defenses" and Back off of them and let them have it.   In the mean time, mass their troops and hit the Russians on the East, and drive West.  

They guessed, planned, thought, and were wrong.   All but two Battleships were repaired and sent back into Service.   Isoroku Yamamoto forgot one thing when he was a student at Harvard, the US resolve.   The resources that we had were astonishing, when compared to the Japanese.   The A-Bomb was the right thing to do, at the time.   It saved MILLIONS of lives and allowed me to spend 25 years with my grandfather who served in the Pacific (USMC 43-46).  

That picture of Ben Affleck is almost disrespectful to those who fought and died at Pearl Harbor.   A lame attempt at "humor" in a "non-humor" thread.  

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« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2006, 01:22:52 AM »
If you only read public school history textbooks, I can understand how you'd think they woke up one day and said, "Hey, let's attack Hawaii!" Obviously, that didn't happen. They must have thought they had a darn good reason or no other alternative, knowing the industrial power of the US would eventually crush them.

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Ack-Ack: I think we deserve more information. Please let us know the Mitsubishi company and building address. You can PM it, if you wish; I won't reveal it, except to the Mitsubishi HQ here in Japan.

It is very surprising to read such an accusation. You wrote that you 'always' feel strange, meaning this happens every year. I think this type of rumor should be documented and verified, since it creates emotionally charged arguments. It would be a significant shock to learn that this is true. Every company I have dealt with is keenly aware of the 5 days the US flag flies at half mast for their US subsidiaries, more so than average US companies.

Are you sure they are not tenants and the building management made this error?

Thanks, and I look forward to the information.
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« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2006, 01:22:52 AM »
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What do you mean? Is there any event that justifies a country to go  on a world conquest rampage?


a "can-do" attitude:O :O :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid
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« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2006, 01:27:37 AM »
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If you only read public school history textbooks, I can understand how you'd think they woke up one day and said, "Hey, let's attack Hawaii!" Obviously, that didn't happen. They must have thought they had a darn good reason or no other alternative, knowing the industrial power of the US would eventually crush them.

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Yeah, how would the US eventually crush them? Did the US crush them? Nope!

The Japanese aninmals were A-Bombed, then trained to be civilized.
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« Reply #50 on: December 08, 2006, 01:30:13 AM »
Rolex, did the Japanese wake up one day a decide that China would destroy them?

There must be some good reason for attacking China also.
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« Reply #51 on: December 08, 2006, 01:34:54 AM »
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If you only read public school history textbooks, I can understand how you'd think they woke up one day and said, "Hey, let's attack Hawaii!" Obviously, that didn't happen. They must have thought they had a darn good reason or no other alternative, knowing the industrial power of the US would eventually crush them.



This is one reason why I never took you seriously Rolex.
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« Reply #52 on: December 08, 2006, 01:41:21 AM »
Of course, Rolex is not making any sense.

The US was never a threat to Japan. To prove my point, what do you think happed to Japan after WWII? :lol  Amazing, isn't it?

We A-bombed the evil bastards, then we trained them to be civil.
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« Reply #53 on: December 08, 2006, 01:49:38 AM »
Perhaps this is an example of why you get banned. You rail at demons floating in your mind because you are unable to comprehend simple English sentences.

They must have thought they had a darn good reason or no other alternative, knowing the industrial power of the US would eventually crush them.

I did not say their reasons were correct or just. You see, the important phrase is, "They must have thought..."

I won't be responding to anything further you write here. It is now a tradition. Have a pleasant day.
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« Reply #54 on: December 08, 2006, 02:11:08 AM »
ByeBye, please go bye bye.   Thanks.  One more to ignore.  Sheesh.

Where are the MPs when you need one?  :)
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« Reply #55 on: December 08, 2006, 04:53:42 AM »
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That sneak attack on P-harbor by Dai-Nippon Kaigun was their only military sucess against the USN.  After that it was either stalemate or downright USN victory:aok


Google 'Savo Island'.

The very first link it comes up with will no doubt be enlightening reading for you.
Most of the ships that give Ironbottom Sound it's name are USN or RAN.
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« Reply #56 on: December 08, 2006, 04:55:09 AM »
SoA2, nice thread, thanks for the timeline.

USN. Past, present and future.
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« Reply #57 on: December 08, 2006, 06:52:27 AM »
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Perhaps this is an example of why you get banned. You rail at demons floating in your mind because you are unable to comprehend simple English sentences.

They must have thought they had a darn good reason or no other alternative, knowing the industrial power of the US would eventually crush them.

I did not say their reasons were correct or just. You see, the important phrase is, "They must have thought..."

I won't be responding to anything further you write here. It is now a tradition. Have a pleasant day.



You're funny.

The sentences before those statements are very telling of your dishonesty. You basically said that you know more about the subject than anyone who has read about history in textbooks, and you said that you could understand why people thought that (sarcastically) the Japanses "woke up one day and decided to attack Hawaii".
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« Reply #58 on: December 08, 2006, 07:39:57 AM »
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You're funny.

The sentences before those statements are very telling of your dishonesty. You basically said that you know more about the subject than anyone who has read about history in textbooks, and you said that you could understand why people thought that (sarcastically) the Japanses "woke up one day and decided to attack Hawaii".


Unfortunately he is right.
Public schools cover very little of why, or how things came about other then that they came about.

No offence but it looks to me anyway that you are trying ot read something into his statments that either arent there or arent intended the way you are taking them
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« Reply #59 on: December 08, 2006, 10:04:31 AM »
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I guess we all know the step-by-step events on what lead nazi Germany and fascist Italy to go on a World Conquest (TM).  I still have vague idea on Japan and what caused Japan to join the axis World Conquest (TM) bandwagon...:huh


all the answers are here

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/features/0007/
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