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Offline FrodeMk3

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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2006, 02:34:14 AM »
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At least with three countries the two sides that have less players can gang up on the the side with the numbers advantage.


If you guys remember the Old MA, all it took was for 2-3 large squads working together to make things happen on the map. Well, one of the reasons the old setup would get imbalanced, is that where the large majority of people flew for one chesspiece, and stayed there, A few of the squads would rotate and fly different countries every tour...from time to time, they would all happen to jump to one country at once. Then, you would have a large, old style MA that was out of whack by 50-75 players or more...and then, you had the steamroller.

I would think, that with 2 countries, The fights would be pretty large...If you had a 400 or more player cap, and the sides are roughly equal, then you are looking at + or - 200 people going into the same fight(or in a small area.) Now, with that same cap, But you split into 4 countries, you are looking at + or - 100 a country...this might open up some better oppurtunities for front lines to spread out. The fighting would be along more than 1 common front, so people would be a little more spread out. It would also hamper the 2 countries ganging on 1, because you will have a 4th state to contend with. Otherwise, the only way you can inhibit ganging, is to go with 2 countries.

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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2006, 03:39:12 AM »
I kinda like the idea, some state that people won't wanna move from their chess piece.
Will this "new test arena" idea have a way to play on Team A or Team B, then the next day go back to Bish, Nit or Rook?  or do you have to play as A or B the whole time?

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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2006, 05:59:53 AM »
From experiences in another unmentionable game the two sides division can have bad effects in general atmospehere of the game. I think that is some kind of bad feature in human nature that the less enemies the deeper the gap between them. Maybe that is the reason why some game makers do not go with three, but with four or even five countries?

We could even see a sharp division in discussions on this BBS. PWNer: "Hell that dude knows his business, but I cannot agree with him because he's from zOMFG land." etc...

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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2006, 07:06:57 AM »
Or we could just bring back the old MA and have 500 people on at night :aok



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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2006, 07:24:40 AM »
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the sad part is 2 sides would work great... even better than 3 sides.. its just that alot of players are so very loyal to their chess piece that if 2 sides were implemented the ah community would get thrown into chaos..


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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2006, 08:07:32 AM »
Well now that we have the option, why not run a month test and let the people decide. Try one arena with just 2 sides, see what happens. Make it a late 43 early 44 plane set.  Heck we could try 3 or 4 different ideas with different plane set & capture rules in each.  At the end of the tour the logs will show which have more potential.

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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2006, 08:21:26 AM »
Too much ZOMFG-coating loses the possible point.... :huh


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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2006, 09:14:35 AM »
I think 2 countries is a great idea .

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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2006, 12:14:23 PM »
I think it'd be a good idea if HT implemented a Testing Arena AKA LWOrange to try all the new ideas that the community dishes out..
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2006, 03:51:04 PM »
We once had a Rook female give birth to a Bish baby from some indiscretion across fronts. We could tell by the pointy head. We took it and threw it into the volcano of the center big isle.

   Seriously though, the whole loyal to the chess piece thing gets in the way of alot of fun we could be having.

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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2006, 04:05:22 PM »
That's my thinking too.  The heck with the chess piece bit.  Throw it out, along with the silly loyalty to it and start again.

Let people build up another silly loyalty to a name and work it so that the numbers balance better and the fun can be the same for all.

It's that silliness that makes me think dumbing it down is what needs to happen since folks can't seem to see very far past the tip of their own noses in terms of the overall play for everyone.
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« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2006, 04:06:47 PM »
And as a BTW.  This isn't meant as an AvA set up.  No rolling plane set.  let em all fly for both sides.  Get rid of ENY.

The key is a cap on country numbers and one front fought over by two teams.
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« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2006, 04:32:01 PM »
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... and work it so that ... fun can be the same for all.

 


I think this is the part that requires magic. :D

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« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2006, 05:04:43 PM »
Why have countries?
Just make a bunch of bases from which we can fly any plane we want to fly.
Also lose the hosed 'Rank/Perk' system.
All planes should be available to anyone, anytime, any base.
I remember the days when things were less complicated, and nobody cared about a few whiners..........gimme a break.


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« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2006, 05:06:15 PM »
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And as a BTW.  This isn't meant as an AvA set up.  No rolling plane set.  let em all fly for both sides.  Get rid of ENY.

The key is a cap on country numbers and one front fought over by two teams.


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