Author Topic: Blue Cap/ Orange Cap(HTC) (Read 2284 times)

Laurie · « **Reply #45 on:** December 09, 2006, 02:36:44 PM »

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The Fugitive · « **Reply #46 on:** December 09, 2006, 03:17:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Flayed1
Fugitive I belive this new system is primariliy a way to bring large maps back into rotation with out haveing the 200 people on one of those large maps spread here and there rolling bases in 3's and 4's with no resistance.

I would guess if HT go's for a system like this that it would be in all arenas at least on the large maps... I see no reason that the small maps need this system as the small maps already channel fighting well the way they are and I have told HT as much.

Understood Flayed1, and if it works as HT hopes, then there WILL be times that there will be a big map in each of the LW arenas, what then?

I think those that are holding on to the "easy way" of doing things are going to have to come to grips with this idea that HT wants more strategy, more planning, more excucution of plans. Gone are the days when you come to a base and just pick a target with your bombs then vulch till your low on gas. Planning, target assignments, and timing is going to win the day, not just conga lining it in.

The game had gotten to "gamey" in that there were too many dive bombing lancs, de-ack then vulch parties, and such, that took away from the original intent of the game, which was a combat simulation game. The community didn't control this downward spiral of game play, so HTC has stepped in to try and bring it back to what it was intended as.

Lets face it, with the way the game was going, it was turning into a kids play ground like "Quake" or something. Most kids get tired of things and move on to the "next best game out there" what ever that may be. This isn't good from a bussiness point of view as I don't think we have as many coming in as a kids game does.

On the other hand, having a more structured gaming environment will retain more people who are more into the game from the historical point of view. Some of the kids might actuall stay do to the challange they find. Out thinking the enemy is always a lot more fun than being able to fire as fast as you can to kill "him" before "he" kills you.

Its a new world here at HTC, might as well enbrace it, and try to enjoy it, because whining about it ain't going to get ya any where!

Thrawn · « **Reply #47 on:** December 09, 2006, 03:40:21 PM »

My nick is Thrawn and I support what LTARghst and Flayed1 said.

Mr No Name · « **Reply #48 on:** December 09, 2006, 08:13:47 PM »

There's no such thing as a base without defense... The base will flash when anything (Even NOE) comes within like 12 miles of it. If you do not watch the map or if you choose to ignore the map, the loss of the base is your own fault.

Bode · « **Reply #49 on:** December 09, 2006, 08:30:38 PM »

I'm just not happy being forced to fly in an arena that I don't like, ie Orange, But yall know me when am I ever happy. Blue Stays full because just like a said before, The Masses are speaking to the HTC crew, Life will go on, Sun will come out, but in my little AH world I'm not happy. I think it has just been way to many changes way to fast for us to keep up.

That Is All

LTARghst · « **Reply #50 on:** December 09, 2006, 09:59:11 PM »

Its a new world here at HTC, might as well enbrace it, and try to enjoy it, because whining about it ain't going to get ya any where!

What a load of B.S. some of you few who like Orange would just love you see something like this wouldnt you, kinda reminds me of the guys you ask to not bomb TT VH's well what do you know they are down again. Someone of you just hate seeing others have fun that is the biggest problem I see here. Nuff said!

pluck · « **Reply #51 on:** December 09, 2006, 11:24:21 PM »

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Originally posted by LTARghst
Its a new world here at HTC, might as well enbrace it, and try to enjoy it, because whining about it ain't going to get ya any where!

What a load of B.S. some of you few who like Orange would just love you see something like this wouldnt you, kinda reminds me of the guys you ask to not bomb TT VH's well what do you know they are down again. Someone of you just hate seeing others have fun that is the biggest problem I see here. Nuff said!

see something like what? ya, we just hate seeing others have fun, that is such a shame:rolleyes: you really hit the nail on the head with this one.

out of curiosity, how would you explain taking FT? it was because it was a challenge, or because it would ruin the fun for others? using that as just an example.

MIShill · « **Reply #52 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:14:13 AM »

I'm not sure I understand the direction of this whine. Is this about unequal numbers? Is the problem the wrong map in one arena? Is it the wrong time of day (or more likely the wrong time of month)? We need to be more specific in these whines or it becomes harder to get squelched. A little more specificity and a lot more anger would push this along nicely. BTW, a good Stilton goes nicely with a tawny port.
-MI-

Thrawn · « **Reply #53 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:18:22 AM »

Seems simple to me, I don't want to embrace anything. HTC was giving me the product I wanted in the previous system...the one that's in effect a blue.

I was happily playing in that arena, and I was happily giving them my $15.00 US a month to do so. Hopefully they are just as happy to take it.

To detractors that insult myself (or at least generally people that prefer LW Blue), by saying we don't like challenges or aren't "really" strategy players I say, "So?". Even if it's true, it's totally irrelevant. Why we play the way we play or why we like to play a particular system has no bearing on the fact that we happily play that way and happily give HTC our money to do so.

Heck, if HTC had a crashing-a-jeep-into-a-wall arena that a large group of players like to participate in (and pay $15.00 a month to play in), as long as it was profitable, what in gods name do you think would motivate HTC to shut it down or change to the generally precieved detriment of it?

Same thing with orange and blue. What makes some of you guys that like the orange system think that HTC is going to apply it to blue arena? So you guys can get a cheap ego boost through your vicarious attachment to a freaking arena setting?

For crying out loud, EW arena draws about 20-30 people at a time and they keep that. LW blue draws hundreds...as is. Not only that, but obviously some people like it so much ...as is...that they are taking the time to express their concerns about not being able to play in it here an now.

The solution to this wouldn't be to make them dislike the product further by denying them total access to the system they like playing in. It's probably to give them more access to it.

LTARghst · « **Reply #54 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:48:09 AM »

Pluck,
Have no idea what you are getting at but for your info I enjoyed FT myself. Hate to see it not in the maps.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #55 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:50:57 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
What makes some of you guys that like the orange system think that HTC is going to apply it to blue arena?

What makes you think he won't?

pluck · « **Reply #56 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:52:56 AM »

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Originally posted by LTARghst
Pluck,
Have no idea what you are getting at but for your info I enjoyed FT myself. Hate to see it not in the maps.

lol, at this point i'm not sure if i do either, way too much whiskey and *cough* some beer. i'm just gonna gracefully walk away:) err should i say stumble.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #57 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:55:17 AM »

I like orange, and I liked FT, and I liked TT, but more than anything, I liked taking a heavy fighter to TT and bombing people.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #58 on:** December 10, 2006, 02:22:19 AM »

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Originally posted by Mr No Name
There's no such thing as a base without defense... The base will flash when anything (Even NOE) comes within like 12 miles of it. If you do not watch the map or if you choose to ignore the map, the loss of the base is your own fault.

How do you suggest a country outnumbered 2-1 cover all those bases?

The Horde is what it is. OK so I see the base flashing and I auger my 38G as I'm apt to do and rush to that field. Up I go knowing the mob is just that, with alt and E while I'm having to race along the deck in hopes of getting enough speed up to at least have a chance.

Tonite was a good example. Some of us were defending 221 cause it kept flashing. For a while it was ok as the numbers were relatively even in that sector. But Rooks had 100 guys to the Bish 50. Where do you suggest those of us defending get another 50 guys that quickly so that we can spread them out evenly to cover all our turf?

We fought em off for a while, but it gets tough, and not much fun getting mugged by 4-5 guys who have the drop on you everytime. Boom the VH is gone and then the FHs.

Any other suggestions for that flashing field when numbers are like that?

It's all well in good, and I'll accept the responsibilty when the numbers are even or even reasonably close, but I can only fly one plane at a time and in a 2-1 numbers disadvantage you can only cover so many places.

How is that my fault again?

bustr · « **Reply #59 on:** December 10, 2006, 02:23:16 AM »

Is it possible that a change to radar is more in need to the old MA style arena then a new base capture system?