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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #45 on: December 11, 2006, 06:05:15 PM »
The shuttering makes me shudder.

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« Reply #46 on: December 11, 2006, 06:21:30 PM »
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because it never happened, unless u got the footage to prove me wrong...


...something about a Statue toppling.....happy people....just can't seem put my finger on it...
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« Reply #47 on: December 11, 2006, 06:31:05 PM »
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The shuttering makes me shudder.


:rofl
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« Reply #48 on: December 11, 2006, 06:58:14 PM »
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The shuttering makes me shudder.


Piss shiver? ;)
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« Reply #49 on: December 11, 2006, 07:30:39 PM »
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...something about a Statue toppling.....happy people....just can't seem put my finger on it...

one isolated event...  how about the 4000+ death toll, that sounds like a very warm welcome, so does suicide bombers...
Iraqi's are still killing Americans and Canadians
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« Reply #50 on: December 11, 2006, 08:13:15 PM »
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one isolated event...  how about the 4000+ death toll, that sounds like a very warm welcome, so does suicide bombers...
Iraqi's are still killing Americans and Canadians


Actually its more Iranians and Syrians then Iraqis

while every death is tragic.
4K over the span of what? 5 years now is nothing short of a miraculously small number

The problem is. Unlike the "greatest Generation"
Your typical civilian doesnt have the intestonal fortitude for what it takes.

Our enemies have no such weakness.

And they do recognise it as our weakness
And THAT is where they are better then us
THAT is where they have us beat

Rest assured.
As enreged as this country was after 9/11

Even if this were Afghanistan and the same things were happening there instead of Iraq.
You would be hearing the same screams from the same people.

While I agree in large part with the admittedly small portions I have read of the report
I was an am disturbed that at least 1 former high ranking member of the military wasnt represented or included.
I dont consider former secretary of Defence William J. Perry to be a former high ranking member of the military but rather a political liason between the Military and the white house.
IMO there should have been at least one former Cheif of staff included in the study
I do not see how a completely valid assessment can be made without proper military representation and analysis
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« Reply #51 on: December 11, 2006, 08:33:52 PM »
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Actually its more Iranians and Syrians then Iraqis

If this is true, why hasnt the US attacked Iran or Syria??
Why dont they eliminate their "terrorist threat"?

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« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2006, 08:52:42 PM »
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Actually its more Iranians and Syrians then Iraqis

I do not see how a completely valid assessment can be made without proper military representation and analysis


Because the problem is entirely political. The War isn't winable through force of arms any more. Smart folks are realizing that and planning accordingly.

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« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2006, 08:57:43 PM »
The war is winable by force. It's just that the US is not willing to use full force.

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« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2006, 09:25:05 PM »
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Because the problem is entirely political. The War isn't winable through force of arms any more. Smart folks are realizing that and planning accordingly.


Its not going to be winnable by being entirely political either.
but by both.

Still in any event the question is in large part what to do with our military and how.
Seems to me it would make perfect sense that someone sould have been involved if for no other reason then to give a military perspective.

Having only civilian representation is the moral equivelent of  amature kids playing stratego pushing little flags across a map
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« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2006, 09:26:47 PM »
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If this is true, why hasnt the US attacked Iran or Syria??
Why dont they eliminate their "terrorist threat"?


Probbly the same reason we didnt go into China during the Korean War.
and the same reason we werent supposed to go into Cambodia during Nam.


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« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2006, 09:30:31 PM »
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Probbly the same reason we didnt go into China during the Korean War.
and the same reason we werent supposed to go into Cambodia during Nam.


Politics


As well as the reason why we haven't liberated Cuba from Castro...

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« Reply #57 on: December 11, 2006, 10:37:20 PM »
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one isolated event.


Wait, you said "It never happened"

I showed you one, and you say ok, it's one isolated event.  When I show you more, and I can show you more, will you have another comment of how that doesn't count either?

Which is it, Never, Almost Never, or you might have missed something?

Some people are difficult to try and have a discussion with, especially when they can't stick with what they actually say.
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« Reply #58 on: December 11, 2006, 10:51:01 PM »
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The war is winable by force. It's just that the US is not willing to use full force.


Full force = genocide?
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« Reply #59 on: December 11, 2006, 10:52:38 PM »
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Full force = genocide = knee jerk reply?
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