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Offline hubsonfire

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« Reply #360 on: December 12, 2006, 12:27:53 AM »
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« Reply #361 on: December 12, 2006, 12:28:33 AM »
I think this all started with the spotted owl and Yul Gibbons eating endangered pine trees or something......SAVE THE CLOCK TOWER!

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« Reply #362 on: December 12, 2006, 01:07:35 AM »
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I think the biggest problem we have is the lack of understanding of exactly what the problem is!

HT obviously sees a problem and is going about solving it by splitting the arenas, the "orange experiment", and now the latest ENY adjustments.  From everything I've read of what he as said, there are two problems that need to be solved:

1.  Too many players in a single arena which creates a "slum" effect (hordes, milkruns, etc).
2.  Imbalance between the countries.

From everything I've read of the response from the community, my conclusion is that the majority of players are concerned with staying together with their squads.

I would love to see us begin to reach consensus as to what we are trying to solve.  When I read things like "why not put things back the way they were?" then it becomes clear to me that we are not understanding the problem or that maybe the problem is not what we think it is.  I worry sometimes that HT is listening to particular groups of players and getting an understanding of the "problem" that not neccessarily reality but then realize that he is a pretty sharp guy and should be able to see through that sort of thing.

Compound all of this with the natural tendency (especially among men) to resist change.

If someone would clarify exactly what problem we are trying to solve I would appreciate it.

Have a great day!



I would love a problem definition.
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« Reply #363 on: December 12, 2006, 01:07:44 AM »
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« Reply #364 on: December 12, 2006, 01:09:48 AM »
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« Reply #365 on: December 12, 2006, 03:50:02 AM »
you still dont get it , sorry, but,
bigger fubar otw.....

the simplest solution it has already given to you..

leave everything as is, just give a higher than 400 cap to the LW blue arena

and fix a little the eny. everyone will have what he wants.

if not , be prepaired for awfull results of wrong decisions

just my opinion

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« Reply #366 on: December 12, 2006, 04:32:26 AM »
I dont see what all the fuss was about. Game seems just about the same to me.


Now lets poke the staff abit and hurry them on giving us some new planes and tanks. I want the ME410, A sherman, JU52 and a german troop carrier like the Sdkfz 251/1 :D

And how about some float planes for the ports?

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« Reply #367 on: December 12, 2006, 06:03:05 AM »
Quick WB history.  HTC had long left. WB 2 came out many players moved there.  New clipboards new dar system and way way better graphics.  WB2 was that good that if you had a low end computer you couldn't use it :rolleyes:

1/2 the guys in WB 1 other 1/2 in WB2.  Some imbalances occurred as you would expect and some guys just left.  WB2 started to dominate after a while an WB1 became unpopulated as you would expect.  Surprisingly some really gamey watermelon went on.  Maybe not enough players to stop it ...dunno:huh

WB2 had a few mini changes. Artillery...bleeding useless.  Last one was all fighters had to taxi to runway.  I broke more planes taxiing than planes I was shot down in:rolleyes:

WB1 was a ghost town  WB2 was emptying out also.  Dunno where they were going:D

I was rolling my 3rd fighter after snapping the gear on the previous 2 when the blasted gear snapped again.  You know what lads ?  I said to myself "this is not what I signed up for".....here endeth history leason.
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« Reply #368 on: December 12, 2006, 06:43:39 AM »
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Don't think the side balancing changes had kicked in as of tonight, at least in LWblue.  Bish 129, Knights 119, and rooks 80! :aok
 I got my 40 kills over 7 sorties though! :D



Interesting.

The side balancing HAD kicked in last night, it just is FAR less punitive than the BBS ...anticipatory complainers?...expected.

The other thing that I find interesting is that there was almost equal imbalance in the Orange last night. Played for hours with the Rooks 80 Bish 80 Nits 40 (in flight...I dont remember totals).

It seems that for the low side, the log ins = log outs, and the higher sides drop veeeery slowly.

It also seems that any Knights that got bumped from Blue would have been more than welcome to try out Orange; and that any squad that found itslef split sould have easily moved en mass to another arena.
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Re: Changes to come.
« Reply #369 on: December 12, 2006, 07:04:44 AM »
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Monday we will be implementing a new balancing system. It works with the existing ENY number. It will no longer limit what planes you can fly. But rather when it reaches a preset value, people entering the arena will not be able to fly in that arena for their current country.

You will get a message  similar to you are 3rd in a queue of 3 .

Your choices will be
1. go to another arena.
2. change countries.
3. wait until more people come onto the other side, or some one from your country leaves.

People waiting will always be able to change countries regardless of their last country change time.
People waiting in queue will not be counted in the ENY values.
This new balancing system will be implemented in all main arenas.

The test capture lines will be taken down until we can layout and code some different options.

1. The current zone / strat setup does not lend it self very well to the current setup,We will be change the supply system to work on all your countries fields, hence hitting the strat targets will have a larger effect.

2. The war win criteria will be changed from having to capture almost all of 1 country , to having to capture around 30 - 40% of both countries fields.

3. Will also make some core fields uncapturable in each country.

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If your going to make 30 to 40% of both for win we will have to go back to Map rotation week. new map each arena each week. also might help to get planes in other arenas. that all 4 arenas have dif map rotation. Tooo many times you log on every map is same. your new capture system can make it so same map will never be in each arena same time.

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« Reply #370 on: December 12, 2006, 07:17:34 AM »
See Rules #4, #5.
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« Reply #371 on: December 12, 2006, 07:25:55 AM »
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are all these changes in game now?  the war winning criteria?  the uncapturable core fields?

Not sure, last night in LWO there was about 100 bish/rook and about 60 nit, this situation lasted for at least two hours. My guess is yes, but when folks came there to log on and saw they'd have to fly for the outnumbered country they simply chose another arena.

The problem all along was similar...folks would see one country being in the hole and go join whichever team was "winning".

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« Reply #372 on: December 12, 2006, 07:39:04 AM »
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Sooner or later you reach a point were you realise it's not worth the time trying to force people into a certain gamestyle.

C'mon Kev, that's a rediculous statement. If the gamestyle intended is simple fairness then it it never "not worth the time".

EVERY game and sport has rules, and every rule of every game is in place for the sake of fairness. Would you like to play chess with me if I get twice as many peices as you, how about just one more Queen, or play poker when I get 7 cards and you get 5?

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« Reply #373 on: December 12, 2006, 07:42:11 AM »
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« Reply #374 on: December 12, 2006, 07:47:01 AM »
I don't wanna go back and read a whole bunch, my question is simple. Does the balancing keep all three country's even or just prevent one from growing to big?
I saw that it was 80-80-40.... one side isn't balanced?
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