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Offline sparow

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« on: December 11, 2006, 05:58:57 PM »
We should have at least one seaplane of each country (US, UK, Germany, Japan, Italy and SU) and use them mainly to pick-up pilots in the drink and launch troops( by dinghy or chute) for captures. No submarines yet, so pointless to have ASV features...

The S&R of pilots should be a very highly rewarded activity, in points and perks, popular to those who like to RTB keeping kills, points and perks.

There could be a kind of trade here, like: - I get you out of the water, you keep your score, but I get your points and perks...

Of course, getting shot down before delivering the package would be a total loss for all...

No submarines yet, so pointless to have ASV features...

At least the ubiquituous Catalina!

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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2006, 07:06:43 PM »
Sea planes would be freaking kewl!

then we coulg get the fatsarse Kawanishi H8K "Emily" a big fat four engined IJN sea plane studded w/ 20mm cannons, so yes it can defend itself :D

http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/h8k.htm
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armament: 20 mm Type 99 Model 1 cannon in bow, dorsal and tail turrets and two beam hatches, and 7.7 mm Type 92 machine-guns in ventral, port and starboard fuselage sides and cockpit hatches (H8K2, H8K3 and H8K4).

Accommodation: Crew of ten (H8K1 to H8K4). Crew of nine and 29 passengers or 64 troops (H8K2-L).


S&R would be freaking fun as well! I've seen it tried in the H2Hs rather fun trying to find the speck of a downed pilot in a canyon.

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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2006, 07:25:27 PM »
When somebody's shot down they're not going to wait 30-50 minutes for a SAR to get to them when they could have towered, upped, landed 5 kills, upped again, and landed 5 more kills in the time it took to wait for the SAR.

Not to mention there's no point for the SAR folks, either.

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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2006, 07:32:58 PM »
But sea planes would still be kewl.....

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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2006, 07:41:48 PM »
You just say that because you want the H8K so badly :)

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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2006, 08:04:36 PM »
:D

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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2006, 08:50:43 PM »
Y'know, for all the talking up the H8K gets over the Catalina, a bunch of them were actually shot down by PBYs during the Guadalcanal campaign. The Emily can't boast the opposite...
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2006, 11:20:38 AM »
Actually, I like the seaplane concept.  It would give ports a more active role in the game (i.e. as a seaplane base).  The Japanese had a floatplane version of the Zero that was quite a respectable fighter.  Bigger planes like the PBY and H8K could be used in the bombing and anti-shipping role, as well as to drop supplies/troops.  Finally, it would provide an ASW platform (once subs are introduced).
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2006, 03:19:40 PM »
@Saxman

Ah, but this isn't Guadocanal, this is AH, its a whole nother ball game. And I nvr Talkd up the H8K over the Catalina, we need em both!

@Sabre

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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2006, 05:11:37 PM »
Neither one serves a purpose in AH. We have no shipping, no ASW, no need for fleet escort or SAR. None of these are aspects of this game. Really no reason to put seaplanes in.

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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2006, 06:25:44 PM »
I may be mis understanding you but you make it seem as though they have NO practical use, simply because there are no subs or SAR ops.


I disagree,

they are heavily armed "C47s", bombers, and fighters that can take off from ports.

Yes we have no shipping (though there are barges, idk wut they do though) ASW or SAR. But i'm sure that they could probably get to emy CVs alot faster than the bombers and fighters that have to take off from inland airfields would.

Most of all they would be fun.

ALso, i'm sure that if we had them, they'd be very much appreciated when your airfield is capped and there is a port near by.

not that their ONLY uses would be to quickly attack CVs or as a last ditch place to up and try to save a capped based.

Instead of serving no purpose, they actually give purpose to something that has very little purpose right now, ports.


my 2 cents


PS: screw the H8K and PBY we need t3h Hughes H4 Hercules, imagine 750 fifty troops comin to take your precious base, lol, hey if we ever get the M4 then we could take those wround with it too!
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2006, 06:13:08 AM »
1 word, Immersion!

Anything that adds to this adds to the game.
Anything that takes away from this steals from the game.

Idiots babbling about football game on 200 = immersion killer.
Seeing a H8k Flying boat taking off = Immersion builder.

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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2006, 12:45:17 PM »
I like the idea.  You could also use them to bring supplies out to a damaged CV.
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2006, 12:55:39 PM »
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Originally posted by Krusty
Neither one serves a purpose in AH. We have no shipping, no ASW, no need for fleet escort or SAR. None of these are aspects of this game. Really no reason to put seaplanes in.


Found on the Internet re: PBY Catalina:

"During WW-II, they were rigged for bombing, strafing, and torpedo runs."

Why couldn't they do that?

BTW, I also like the idea of using the ports as seaplane bases although the Catalina could also be equipped with wheels making it versitile in this area.
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2006, 03:53:49 PM »
sounds like a great idea for the ports mabey some one go ahead and get scotch to bribe ht:lol
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