Author Topic: Took the plunge ..Vette 'R' me :) (Read 1111 times)

eagl · « **Reply #15 on:** December 13, 2006, 05:01:11 AM »

Just a widdle y-pipe and 3-inch... Don't even need headers for that.

At least put on some performance shocks and struts up front... That's a half-day in the garage shop even if you have to find a shop with the tools to compress the front springs for you. While you're under there, put on a little beefier front swaybar from the 1LE kit. You might even find one used for cheap. Poly bushings will keep it nice and tight, but they might squeak a bit. The crisper front end control will be worth it.

We're talking a couple hours, not much bucks... Come on, you know you want to.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #16 on:** December 13, 2006, 05:19:43 AM »

Honestly, the first thing on my list is getting ride of thes Coooper tires that are on the car now. The good thing is they're new so I don't have to replace them any time soon. The bad thing is that they're of a hard rubber compound. Once they get worn down a bit I'll replace them with some good tires. After that, all bets are off to what I do next. But most likely it'll be a Corsa cat-back with the 3.5 pro tips.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #17 on:** December 13, 2006, 05:46:19 AM »

Or...

I could save my money that would go to mods and go with my original plan and trade in the Z in 2008 for:

Grayeagle · « **Reply #18 on:** December 13, 2006, 10:38:11 AM »

So ok .. was on the way home near midnite last nite, stopped by the lites at the I-17 intersection ..a white somethin or other pulls up on my right, big muffler, 4 cylinder becomes obvious as he revs the motor to the moon about 15 times while we wait for the green ..I'm thinkin 'umm ..he's in the freeway right turn only lane.'

Guy behind him BEEPS .. cause well, yanno, you don't have to wait on the green there.

He gets flustered, drops it into gear while the motor is still comin down from 50 thousand rpm, 'ah, an automatic' I think as the car chirps/clunks loudly and shoots towards the guard rails on the other side. A radical steering input, a little sideways action and 'omg, he dint just hit the brakes!' ..the white POS comes within inches of the guard rails, the 'driver' ( I use the term loosely here) ..gets on the gas and trundles off down the freeway onramp.

Man .. he really showed me.
I mean.

-GE (so this is what it's gonna be like I guess)

Diablo .. I am a certified gear head.
I have never owned a 'stock' anything for very long.
There are some things I will not do (K&N air filter, for one.. talk about minimal returns for time/money spent.. sheesh!)
..but I have been known to fire a torch up and go all the way around a floor pan cutting *everything* out from under ..just to make my *own* tube-frame, altered wheel-base, 15" motor set-back, big-ass tars stuffed under with narrowed dana car to drive .. and I did that to a '67 GTX.

I was ready to setup motor mounts and panel the interior when a guy gave me more than I thought the car was worth for it ..he 'really' liked it.

I just noted that scott schafiroff makes a nice 427 LS-1 short block ..costs a bit more than the vortech blower .. -pencils that in as 'number two' on the list right under the blower- ..-evil grin-

-GE

RedTop · « **Reply #19 on:** December 13, 2006, 05:05:23 PM »

Congrats:aok

I had a 99 C5 Blue Coupe. HUD and all the bells and whistles.

It was a vacation everytime I drove it. And that was every day.

They are in a class of thier own.

Best of luck with and and enjoy it. Nothing like taking the top off , hitting the road about 8 in the evening during the summer. Cranking that Stereo up and running the dust off at triple digits.

edit....

I had a lil chicky one time while on my way to work pull up beside me in a 911. Beautiful car and beautiful girl as well. She raced the engine a few times while we were at a light in downtown Austin. No I only have like 5 blocks to go til I am at work. But , I though what the heak. So I reved it back.

Light turns green and she just showerrs down on that thing and flat dumps the clutch right in the middle of the intersection. I just tottled away at that point laffing nmy butt off. I had 1 block to go when she puuled back up beside me at the last red light.

I looked over....she was stoned faced. I reved it a bit and she slumped in her seat. I turned right on the red waving out of the top.

It was just a funny moment of many when I had my Vette.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #20 on:** December 13, 2006, 08:48:14 PM »

Thought of a cool nickname for the 'maro.

"C-HOG"

Gonna get it on a personalised plate.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #21 on:** December 14, 2006, 07:45:54 AM »

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Originally posted by DiabloTX

Grayeagle · « **Reply #22 on:** December 14, 2006, 10:11:59 AM »

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Originally posted by DiabloTX
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Thought of a cool nickname for the 'maro.

"C-HOG"

Gonna get it on a personalised plate.

Definitely a perked ride

Guessin my plate should read 'Tiffie' then

-GE

Chairboy · « **Reply #23 on:** December 14, 2006, 10:14:05 AM »

RipSnort: Ka-CHOW!

I watch that movie almost every day. I can recite portions of it without making a mistake.

Why? I have 2.5 and 4.5 year old boys, and they simply require that it be played every day when they get home.

ROC · « **Reply #24 on:** December 14, 2006, 10:38:46 AM »

GE Nice, Congrats!

My best friend just bought his 2nd 06 Vette. Now, get this, 2nd in 2 months.

Well, his first one kinda got wrecked. His wife was sitting at a stop light and some kid hot rodded around the corned, hit the curb, and landed on his HOOD.

Poor thing was totaled with less than 300 miles on it

I opted for the new Stang myself. Of course, the Vettes in a totally different league. But I can keep up with him

Grayeagle · « **Reply #25 on:** December 15, 2006, 01:32:53 AM »

well Skuzzy ..

Superchargers use a belt to drive 'em . the more boost you want, the more hp it's gonna take to make it pushin that belt to compress the air.

They are effective at however much the bottom end can stand. Some Top Fuel engines have turned 15 *thousand* rpm with those huge blowers up top. So far .. no turbo motor has made a dent in top fuel.

The reason I mention top fuel is.. the fastest car wins. Only limitation is 500 cubic inch max motor size .. so if a turbo could do it .. it would.
They cant.

However .. a turbo works very well ..and a twin turbo on a V-8 means ya got one for each bank ..waste gate can keep the boost from poppin head gaskets at the high end, and a turbo can be built to come on at idle and hit the gate at engine redline ..you can even plumb nitrous into 'em so there is no lag (lag is inherent due to first you punch it, then the turbo spools up causing increase in boost ..whereas supercharger is pumpin more air in at idle to begin with .. and it just gets crazier when ya punch it, bein directly driven off the crankshaft = no lag) Of course .. you gotta do somethin to keep the bearings cool and lubed ..they deal directly with exhaust heat, and they spin purty fast.

Turbo is more efficient, due to no belt. Lot more plumbing required.
Gale Banks makes a nice 1000hp small block chebby ..twin turbo. Callaway useda make some nice turbo kits too ..along with others.

Turbo's are nice, .. but .. I'd rather be blown -evil grin-
No lag, right off idle effective, right to engine redline, low maintenance.

-GE (just somethin about havin 'supercharged' lettered on the rear facia

eagl · « **Reply #26 on:** December 15, 2006, 02:43:34 AM »

I remember an article putting one of the first calloway twin turbo vettes against the ZR1 vette. The twin turbo pulled to 200mph, at which time they both melted. No kidding.

It was fast as heck, but they had no way to keep the turbos cool under the vette hood.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #27 on:** December 15, 2006, 07:01:48 AM »

GE, the reason a supercharger is more effective for rails is due to the low end shove they give the rails. Rail engines are cammed up for high RPM, and to produce most of thier horsepower at the top.

When you cam that radical, you lose most of your low end grunt. So the supercharger provides the missing grunt for the low end so the rail can launch.

And they continue to provide boost as the rev up, but the efficiency drops as they need more power to rotate at higher RPM. If you graph the blower delivery pressure against the RPM, the percentage of boost delivered reduces as the RPM increases. Does not matter to a rail engine as thier horsepower increases far faster than the amount of drag induced by a supercharger as RMP increases.

Turbo chargers would never be used for a rail engine, as the power needed from a rail engine is set in the higher RPM range. That is not to say a turbo cannot deliver at lower RPM. They can deliver at low RPM, but the trade-off bneing, they take a longer time to make boost at low RPM. Too long for a rail engine. It would die at launch.

For sustained RPM engines a low RPM delivery turbo charger would be fine. Piston airplane engines are a good example.

Anyway, I digress, most street engines are cammed to not completely kill the low end and a turbo charger works well enough for them. It really all depends on how the grunt is dispersed over the RPM range in the motor. But for instantaneous boost, a super charger is better, as long as you are cammed a bit higher in the RPM range, you can have a heck of street engine.

For the uninitiated, "grunt" is horsepower and/or torque. A "rail" is a dragster.

moot · « **Reply #28 on:** December 15, 2006, 07:48:46 AM »

If the problem is filling gaps in the powerband, why not just use more than one turbochager, each geared for a certain engine speed?

lazs2 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 15, 2006, 08:15:05 AM »

all of these things have been tried with varied results. The latest thing is to have the turbo at the rear of the car. solves the heat and plumbing problem and the long tube going forward solves the cooling of the air charge problem.

superchargers are just neat tho... no lag at all and they look good.

lazs