Hey Lazs, an interesting read

[lazs2]

How would the CMP sell full auto m14's "much like they do the Garand"?

Garands came back in the same way from korea and greece and a number of countries but were then sold to the public through the CMP.

If you think there is no problem with firing an M14 full auto and that the studies were wrong about that then you probly never fired one.   I have fired a BAR (great gun) and the m14... the full auto feature was a mistake on the m14 just as the single fire was not needed on the first BAR's

lazs

[john9001]

Originally posted by lazs2
If you think there is no problem with firing an M14 full auto and that the studies were wrong about that then you probly never fired one.   I have fired a BAR (great gun) and the m14... the full auto feature was a mistake on the m14 just as the single fire was not needed on the first BAR's

lazs

i have fired the M14 on full auto, also the BAR, i found no problem, but of course i just a dumb marine.

effective auto fire with a BAR or M14 is aimed fire in 3 rnd bursts, not like they do at thunder ranch where they just spray lead.

the marine fire team had 3 M1's and 1 BAR, the M14 was to replace that with 3 semi auto M14's and one full auto M14. The semi auto M14's could be converted to full auto by inserting a select fire leaver in the receiver, the squad leader carried the extra leavers to be used as needed in battle.

44MAG
USMC retired

[lazs2]

john..  to me, the heavier BAR was much easier to fire 3-5 round bursts accurately with... and that was with the more powerful ought six round.

If the M14 was such a great select fire weapon... one has to ask why... even with marines..  the select fire lever was kept from them.

lazs

[Dago]

Originally posted by lazs2
john..  to me, the heavier BAR was much easier to fire 3-5 round bursts accurately with... and that was with the more powerful ought six round.

If the M14 was such a great select fire weapon... one has to ask why... even with marines..  the select fire lever was kept from them.

lazs

I am surprised you are not aware that no matter the weapon, the overwhelming majority of rounds fired on full auto do not hit a target.  The military became well aware of this, and it is the reason the M4 Carbine issued to our troops today do not have full auto available, rather single fire or three round burst mode only.

You should do some reading on the subject.

BTW, familiar with the E2 version of the M14?  This was a good answer for the M14 replacing the BAR.

Lazs, your emotion overrides your knowledge and ability to discuss objectively.

[lasersailor184]

If the M14 was such a great select fire weapon... one has to ask why... even with marines.. the select fire lever was kept from them.

Because the marines were taught to fire single aimed shots.


My dad was at the basic riflery range once.  The DI told him to switch into full auto and to unload down range.  The moment his gun had shot more then 2 rounds the DI's started to kick him, screaming that he is never to fire full auto.