Author Topic: Good Riddance to Kofi (Read 2223 times)

SteveBailey · « **Reply #15 on:** December 18, 2006, 05:22:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
See, there you go showing your ignorance again. Annan was an administrator, not a leader of the UN.

He was their figurehead. If he wasn't the recognized leader of the UN, who was? Stop quibbling, you seem to be looking for an argument that you are not going to get.
Instead of insulting me, why not just answer the question? It's not a loaded question, I'm trying to ascertain your perspective. I know that I am not gouing to change your opinion, regardless of what it is and I am not going to debate your view... I simply want to know your opinion of Annan.

Viking · « **Reply #16 on:** December 18, 2006, 05:42:07 PM »

He's not the "figure head" of the UN either. He is/was the chief administrator and have/has no vote on any issues or resolutions in any of the UN councils. He isn’t a leader at all and as such my answer to your question has to be “no”.

SteveBailey · « **Reply #17 on:** December 18, 2006, 05:48:10 PM »

Fair enough. Let's move on.

Do you think the U.N. handled the Bosnia-Serb situation effectively and did a good job of protecting its' charges?

Regardless of your position on the U.S. and its' presence in Iraq, do you feel Annan's comments directed at the U.S. in his final speech were appropriate? If so, why? If not, why?

Viking · « **Reply #18 on:** December 18, 2006, 05:53:59 PM »

#1: No, far from it. The UN mission in Bosnia was a complete failure.

#2: I haven't heard/read Annan's speach yet so I cannot coment on it.

ByeBye · « **Reply #19 on:** December 18, 2006, 06:12:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
He's not the "figure head" of the UN either. He is/was the chief administrator and have/has no vote on any issues or resolutions in any of the UN councils. He isn’t a leader at all and as such my answer to your question has to be “no”.

"The Secretary-General of the United Nations is the head of the Secretariat, one of the principal organs of the United Nations. The Secretary-General acts as the de facto spokesman and leader of the United Nations."

Viking · « **Reply #20 on:** December 18, 2006, 06:26:02 PM »

THE ROLE OF THE SECRETARY-GENERAL

Equal parts diplomat and advocate, civil servant and CEO, the Secretary-General is a symbol of United Nations ideals and a spokesman for the interests of the world's peoples, in particular the poor and vulnerable among them. The current Secretary-General, and the seventh occupant of the post, is Mr. Kofi A. Annan of Ghana, who took office on 1 January 1997.

The Charter describes the Secretary-General as "chief administrative officer" of the Organization, who shall act in that capacity and perform "such other functions as are entrusted" to him or her by the Security Council, General Assembly, Economic and Social Council and other United Nations organs. The Charter also empowers the Secretary-General to "bring to the attention of the Security Council any matter which in his opinion may threaten the maintenance of international peace and security". These guidelines both define the powers of the office and grant it considerable scope for action. The Secretary-General would fail if he did not take careful account of the concerns of Member States, but he must also uphold the values and moral authority of the United Nations, and speak and act for peace, even at the risk, from time to time, of challenging or disagreeing with those same Member States.

That creative tension accompanies the Secretary-General through day-to-day work that includes attendance at sessions of United Nations bodies; consultations with world leaders, government officials, and others; and worldwide travel intended to keep him in touch with the peoples of the Organization's Member States and informed about the vast array of issues of international concern that are on the Organization's agenda. Each year, the Secretary-General issues a report on the work of the United Nations that appraises its activities and outlines future priorities. The Secretary-General is also Chairman of the Administrative Committee on Coordination (ACC), which brings together the Executive Heads of all UN funds, programmes and specialized agencies twice a year in order to further coordination and cooperation in the entire range of substantive and management issues facing the United Nations System.

Stringer · « **Reply #21 on:** December 18, 2006, 06:28:37 PM »

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Originally posted by ByeBye
Kofi Annon has no business lecturing anyone about anything.

The man went straight into a life-long UN career, directly from his job selling hotdogs. His opinion on world affairs is about as worthless as a box of rocks.

It could have been worse....he could have come from a career selling fake grass

culero · « **Reply #22 on:** December 18, 2006, 06:29:14 PM »

Viking, that would seem to refute your statement "He isn’t a leader at all".

culero

Viking · « **Reply #23 on:** December 18, 2006, 06:33:15 PM »

Perhaps as much as a chief janitor is a leader I suppose. Ok, a bit more than that, but he is not the "Supreme Ruler of the UN" as some seem to believe.

ByeBye · « **Reply #24 on:** December 18, 2006, 06:35:03 PM »

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It could have been worse....he could have come from a career selling fake grass

Nothing wrong with starting a successful business and making loads of money doing it, the last I heard.

ByeBye · « **Reply #25 on:** December 18, 2006, 06:36:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
Perhaps as much as a chief janitor is a leader I suppose. Ok, a bit more than that, but he is not the "Supreme Ruler of the UN" as some seem to believe.

He is the face of the UN. You were and are wrong.

Viking · « **Reply #26 on:** December 18, 2006, 06:41:09 PM »

Yes he is the face/voice of the UN organisation. So I suppose I was wrong on the "figurehead" part.

Stringer · « **Reply #27 on:** December 18, 2006, 09:24:01 PM »

See Rule #5

ByeBye · « **Reply #28 on:** December 18, 2006, 09:27:10 PM »

Stringer, not sure what you meant by the laughing guy. Can you explain?

DiabloTX · « **Reply #29 on:** December 18, 2006, 09:36:25 PM »

Nuke, this is the way I see it. You've managed to find a way to get people to buy your artificial grass and making money doing it. I think it's brilliant. They just wish they could come up with something so lucritive.