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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2006, 09:36:02 PM »
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didn't realise that you thought robots were.
Well, the article _is_ talking about some point in the future and not now, right?  I'm assuming that, of course.
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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2006, 10:36:52 PM »
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Ah, didn't realize you thought apes were sapient.


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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2006, 11:27:16 PM »
Man, all this eddykashun for only $14.95 a month.  Lots cheaper than Oxford (are its grads Oxyforons?).
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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2006, 12:52:29 AM »
Thanks, I get those two confused.  Sentient is the word I should have used.
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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2006, 02:25:01 AM »
If the robots are like replicants in the movie Blade Runner then they should have rights.  The theme of that movie centered on the moral question of deactivating replicants after their "life span" was used up.  I don't remember if they became unstable was the reasoning?  The replicants were sentient beings and not emotionless robots.  Not human but close enough by appearance.  They could also think.

If the day comes there is something like that, it would be well to have given the matter some forethought.  What science fiction is today may be reality 50 years from now.  Who knows the future?

My thoughts are that man builds robots as a sort of slave to do repetitious menial labor to save time, do jobs we can't do, etc...   Nothing wrong with that unless the machines can think, learn, make decisions and they look identical to us down to just above the molecular level.  Then they need rights.

The whole situation can be avoided by not "creating" those kind of robots in the first place.  We may not be the ones to create them in any event.  I think it would open up a whole new can of worms to deal with.  Apparently someone's thinking seriously about it in advance.

If the robots pay taxes, would it all go to the govt.?  Is that why they need rights, so they can keep some of the money they earn?  Would the robots be state owned to generate income?  Who pays for their upkeep?  Why do they need rights?  Certainly the discussion of civil or human rights would be directed towards the idea the robots would be highly advanced entities (like replicants) and not something like a mechanical arm assembly line device.  If it is the latter it sounds like a taxation scheme.  If not, someone is thinking many years down the road.


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« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2006, 07:01:12 AM »
What about an empty robotic shell where someone places his brain, and bit by bit, replaces that brain with an artificial substitute?
At what point is he not human anymore, and how do you discern that individual from any regular bot?
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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2006, 09:30:12 AM »
You guys need to put down the blunt, get out of your mother's basement and go out and get some fresh air.