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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2007, 03:22:19 AM »
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Yea, the insurgents were carrying around the missile just to look cool.  :huh


No kidding. "suckered" my ass.

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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2007, 04:03:01 AM »
Video of DHL Airbus incident:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBGit6tJaBg

Isn't it poor design that a plane damaged at the outer part of a wing loses all hydraulic controls?

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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2007, 05:39:49 AM »
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Where'd we have 30,000 killed in an hour?

Antietam was just under 23,000 men in one day...around 7000 in one hour in the cornfield.

As far as I know that still stands as the bloodiest day in American history.

Hiroshima/Nagasaki would be the only times I could come up with.  Those weren't enemies of USA/UK doing it to us either.



One assumes he's talking about the first day of the Somme, though I confess I don't know if the US was a belligerent at that point.
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2007, 06:02:37 AM »
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No kidding. "suckered" my ass.


Bwahah it's so easy to be an internet tough guy. You don't have what it takes to do a reporter job in Iraq and yet you're ready to blame the reporters who got pressured by armed insurgents. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2007, 06:30:03 AM »
30,000 was a drunken typo after 48 hours awake at NYE parties.


i meant 3,000 and i was talking about the tragic WTC attacks.
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2007, 07:53:03 AM »
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Video of DHL Airbus incident:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBGit6tJaBg

Isn't it poor design that a plane damaged at the outer part of a wing loses all hydraulic controls?


All the hydraulic systems have to reach all the control surfaces. How do you propose to do that without making them vulnerable to damage near control surfaces?

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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2007, 08:05:54 AM »
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Shoot, I've seen videos of journalists actually riding around with the insurgents as they do their attacks.  One in particular involved mortaring a US base.


Yes CNN is bad about that.... maybe the Victims family can start picking off CNN employees in response. Sickening to know we do not kill traitors in this country any more.
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2007, 09:06:49 AM »
Shrimp,

Where did you find that photo?
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2007, 09:07:10 AM »
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Yes CNN is bad about that.... maybe the Victims family can start picking off CNN employees in response. Sickening to know we do not kill traitors in this country any more.


A reporters job is to remain neutral and report the events. If they'd take sides they couldn't report anything but biased reports.

Riding with an enemy en route to fight your own countrymen is of course pretty harsh. But not traitorship unless they gave away the troops position to the enemy.
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2007, 09:26:10 AM »
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Bwahah it's so easy to be an internet tough guy. You don't have what it takes to do a reporter job in Iraq and yet you're ready to blame the reporters who got pressured by armed insurgents. :rolleyes:


Internet tough guy? How the hell does that even apply to what I said? Funny comment from a guy who knows nothing about me yet makes an assumption about me "having what it takes" to do something. Who the hell are you?

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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2007, 10:43:35 AM »
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Shrimp,

Where did you find that photo?


http://www.f-16.net  in the general forums.

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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2007, 10:53:07 AM »
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Shrimp,

Where did you find that photo?


Yes, it shows the F-15's flare pattern quite nicely don't you think?

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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2007, 10:53:18 AM »
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A reporters job is to remain neutral and report the events. If they'd take sides they couldn't report anything but biased reports.

Riding with an enemy en route to fight your own countrymen is of course pretty harsh. But not traitorship unless they gave away the troops position to the enemy.


Really?  Where does it say that?  Where do these pompous Ahole press "reporters" find this definition of a "reporter's" roll?  Where does the Constitution provide for "reporter's neutrality" when the country is at war? How many Allied "reporters" ran around with Axis forces during WWII?  How about in WWI?  How many Northern "reporters" ran around with the Southern forces during the Civil War?  How many "reporters" see as their job the broadcasting of enemy propaganda?  Are you aware of the meaning of the words "traitor" and "sedition"?

trea·son     /ˈtrizən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[tree-zuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.  
2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.  
3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.



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[Origin: 1175–1225; ME tre(i)so(u)n < AF; OF traïson < L trāditiōn- (s. of trāditiō) a handing over, betrayal. See tradition]


—Synonyms 1. Treason, sedition mean disloyalty or treachery to one's country or its government. Treason is any attempt to overthrow the government or impair the well-being of a state to which one owes allegiance; the crime of giving aid or comfort to the enemies of one's government. Sedition is any act, writing, speech, etc., directed unlawfully against state authority, the government, or constitution, or calculated to bring it into contempt or to incite others to hostility, ill will or disaffection; it does not amount to treason and therefore is not a capital offense. 2. See disloyalty.


The key words here are in bold.  Where do citizens of the US and/or the coalition countries waging war in Afghanistan or Iraq lose their allegiance to the countries they are citizens of?  I don't see anything in the US Constitution that allows "reporters" to participate in, or accompany enemy actions against the US, nor does it provide the right to broadcast enemy propaganda just so long as they don't provide the enemy with our troop positions.  Also, as far as "unbiased reporting" is concerned how about press reports from the recent Israel/Hizballah conflict?  They allowed Hizballah to escort them to see specifically the things only Hizballah wanted them to see which were damaged homes, schools, mosques, etc., yet they sure didn't show (or most of the time even mention) Hizballah launching thousands of rockets into Isralie towns from these very homes.  How about CNN admitting a few years ago that they did not broadcast "unbiased" information from within Saddam's Iraq.  They never warned anyone that the information CNN provided was filtered and manipulated by the Iraqi government and they continued to broadcast this propaganda for the express purpose of maintaining "access".  Access to do what exactly?  They were effectively members of the Iraqi propaganda machine.  Let's not forget this either, how many news reels in WWII showed Axis snipers shooting American or British troops from the sniper's position?

Oh, I get your point.  The press should only be "unbiased" when it's reporting negative things about the US or coalition.  "Biased" reporting and broadcasting of propaganda is only acceptable when it damages the US or coalition and members of the Press get a free pass when it comes to loyalty and allegance to their own country. Got it.
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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2007, 10:57:32 AM »
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One assumes he's talking about the first day of the Somme, though I confess I don't know if the US was a belligerent at that point.


On the first day of the Somme, British casualties were closer to 60,000. I've no idea what German losses were, but that stands as the worst day ever for the British Army.

That was in 1916 and - no - America  had not at that time joined the war.

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« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2007, 11:24:07 AM »
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Really?  Where does it say that?  Where do these pompous Ahole press "reporters" find this definition of a "reporter's" roll?  
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