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Offline Sundowner

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« on: December 30, 2006, 07:30:05 PM »
Cool article from CNET.

It seemed for a while that chip development might be constrained to more and more cores on a chip without much increase in speed.

This article seems to offer hope that the speed barrier is still a ways off.

Also, the number of transistors on a chip continues to increase.
500 million and 700 million transistors on the new chips are noted.

Can 1 billion transistors on a single processor chip be far off?

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A peek at faster Power6, Cell chips

Judging by details revealed in a chip conference agenda, the clock frequency race isn't over yet.

IBM's Power6 processor will be able to exceed 5 gigahertz in a high-performance mode, and the second-generation Cell Broadband Engine processor from IBM, Sony and Toshiba will run at 6GHz, according to the program for the International Solid State Circuits Conference that begins February 11 in San Francisco.

Chipmakers have run into problems increasing chip clock speed--essentially an electronic heartbeat that synchronizes operations in a processor--because higher frequencies have led to unmanageable power consumption and waste heat.

To compensate, Intel and Advanced Micro Devices have turned instead to the addition of multiple processing cores on each slice of silicon. That's effective when computers are juggling numerous tasks at the same time, but increasing the clock speed means an individual task can run faster.

The first-generation Cell Broadband Engine chip, co-developed by IBM, Sony, and Toshiba, has just appeared in Sony's PlayStation 3 game console and can run at 4GHz. The second-generation chip will run at 6GHz, according to the ISSCC program. In addition, the new chip will have a dual power supply that increases memory performance--a major bottleneck in computer designs today.........

Full article at:
http://news.com.com/A+peek+at+faster+Power6%2C+Cell+chips/2100-1006_3-6146309.html?tag=nefd.top
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2007, 05:23:25 PM »
THIS one runs at 81 GHz.


Wow, I hope the technology comes through.
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2007, 09:42:09 PM »
You thought $1,000 for a CPU was nuts now? Wait til they start making them out of DIAMONDS... You'll be paying $80,000 for that 80GHz CPU, I bet. Theoretically possible, but cost prohibitive.

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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2007, 02:14:48 AM »
Heh Krusty I guess you don't know that the real value of diamonds is not even a fracture of their market place.

The diamond market is under a monopoly of two families and they do what they can to manipulate the price. Industrial diamonds are relatively cheap.
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2007, 03:34:18 AM »
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Originally posted by Krusty
You thought $1,000 for a CPU was nuts now? Wait til they start making them out of DIAMONDS... You'll be paying $80,000 for that 80GHz CPU, I bet. Theoretically possible, but cost prohibitive.


Reading is good for you.

"Diamond isn't exactly the cheapest substance on the planet. A combination of difficult extraction, sparse deposits, and hoarding by worldwide diamond conglomerate De Beers makes diamond far too expensive to waste on mere CPUs. But small Florida-based Gemesis is causing a global shake-up in the diamond market, having recently announced a process than can produce large, gem-quality diamonds for as little as US$5 using heat and pressure.

A competitor to Gemesis, Apollo Diamond, has struck upon an entirely different process that makes diamonds using a plasma-based diffusion method (see our previous coverage). Diamond "sheets" and "bricks" are precipitated one atom at a time, yielding diamond substrates so pure as to be chemically perfect, exceeding even the most perfect natural stones ever found. Diamond wafers nearly 90 mm in diameter are expected within a few years, with production costs at or below that of conventional silicon."
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2007, 11:39:57 AM »
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Originally posted by tapakeg
THIS one runs at 81 GHz.


Wow, I hope the technology comes through.


Interesting article, tapakeg.

And a cool site also.

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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2007, 05:47:35 PM »
While I don't doubt that chipmakers are going to continue to push the clockrates up - I doubt that CPU's as we know them will make it past the 5-6 GHz barrier.

The primary difficulty is that it is hard to drive semiconductors very fast.  It takes time for a channel to set up and stablize, and that's just a function of the physics involved, and it puts a very real limit on the speed you can drive it.  

Naturally, there will be applications where those limits are more or less meaningful, but I don't see conventional microprocessors avoiding them without some revolutionary change.


The diamond material thing is very interesting, but I doubt it will be useful for microrprocessors for quite some time.  More likely it will have immediate utility in microwave and other very high frequency/low power tech, like this (pdf):
http://www.engr.wisc.edu/ece/faculty/hagness_susan/ji_IEEETPS_06.pdf

Although, it may also prove to be useful in high frequency / high power applications like Radar  and communications.

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