starting game 'tutorial'

[Laurie]

I have noticed the 'What do troops do?' and 'can droptanks put out fires?' questions come out country channell more andmore over the past 3 months. To me this sais the TA is not being used/or it is not effective. i propose that a game tutorial be made, to fill in the new guys with basics necesary to hold their own in the fast flowing community the game has. i am getting tired of troops being dropped over fields, kill stealing, and other dis-courteious things. it is not the new guys fault, most of the time.

i think just a few simple traning missions like a simulated capture where the town is down, and they have to fly a goon and little things like that. and it should be explained with words simultaenously.

Theres one problem not all the tiniest ppl want to play aces high, they want to play 'online' and they want instant recognition.

soemtimes when im tired/stressed and come on AH for a break from 'utside world' last thing i want is some guy bugging me, making me partially deaf, and blocking up txt channels with 'OMG I DIED/' and the like.....


i may sound a grumpy scrooge but i DOES get annoying, and i AM patient.

any remarks a very welcome, also anyone from HTC could comment on the matter it would be apprieciated.


 

[Schatzi]

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com
trainers @ hitechcreations.com


You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink.


The tools to learn are there, but the minimum effort it requires to use them seems to be too much for some of the new players. I doubt a tutorial would help them though.

[Benny Moore]

Where is the link to that, Schatzi?  I can't find it anywhere other than this thread.  I'd thought I'd read all of the documentation when I started, but I never saw that.  Perhaps it should be more obvious, under the "support" section, or in "help."

[Blooz]

Also up at the top of this site hover your cursor over "SUPPORT" then click on "HELP" and "FAQ"

All the info about the game is located there but like Schatzi said you need to be inquisitive enough to look for it.


Besides. Why would drop tanks put out fires? They're full of fuel!

[Schatzi]

Originally posted by Benny Moore
Where is the link to that, Schatzi?  I can't find it anywhere other than this thread.  I'd thought I'd read all of the documentation when I started, but I never saw that.  Perhaps it should be more obvious, under the "support" section, or in "help."

Both a link in on the homepage and a sticky are requested.

Theres a thread in H&T that gets bumped every now and then, also the URL can be found on the TA Arena Message as well as in most "Where do i get help/How do I this or that" threads....

[Bruv119]

Hi Hulse,

Yes new players can be annoying.  I asked many questions about the gameplay when I started and I ~S~ steffk and the 71st for answering them all.

If it really is affecting you this badly Hulse just squelch them that is what its there for.  I know it seems a kop out but the mere sight/hearing of squeaking voice is enough for them to get it.

By all means point them in the right direction.


Bruv
~S~

[Hornet33]

I had suggested something like this in the wishlist forum about taking the help files off the webpage and turning them into a game manual. That manual WILL pop up everytime a player tries to log into an online arena if they are on the 2 week trial. Only way to disable it would be to create a paid account through HiTech. Toss it in their face for 2 weeks and who knows some of them might actually take the time to read it after getting killed so many times.

I'll try and help a new player out but some of the questions here lately have been just plain stupid. "How do I take off???" I mean come on now folks....this is a FLIGHT combat game so you would assume that anyone interested in playing would at least know throttle up...pull back on stick....so on and so forth.

[4deck]

It would really be helpful, if before anyone entered in the MA's they had to spend 1 hour in the training areana. I know people just want to get in online, and see the numbers, and go whoa. And jump right in. Well great, but I'll be the first to  admit I dont mind giving a helpin hand in Bombers at all. BUT, I've had a few jump in, and not even know where the damn flaps key was. It would be nice to have em at least know what some controls are. Usually these types, Ill have em drop on the town. Hell they gotta hit something right. Ofcourse I got a couple of screen shots of some people missing the entire town with there entire salvo.

Anyway it would be sweet if there was a way that before you could get into the MA, you had to spend some time in the TA. I go there sometimes, just to up an aircraft Im unfirmiliar with, and get a feel for it. For instance there was a NIKI mission going up. Never flew one, didnt have head positions set, so i just went over to another base and got organized. Got al my controls down. Landed, and the mission took off a minute later. Actually started to dig the plane.

Anyway just my 2˘
Cheers
BGFloats
aka Floatsup

[BaldEagl]

I suppose it could never happen but it would be nice if all new players were only allowed into the training arena until they "tested" out of it.  I'd envision them having to learn at least the basiscs, how to get ac in the air, how to drop bombs in a bomber, how to operate a vehicle and how to capture a base.

Another idea is that all new players (2 week account guys) get an arena message telling them that if they don't know the controls of their ac to go to set-up, keymap and look at any time.  Whenever the noobs are asking basic questions in the MA, I give them this advice.  Usually I get a thank you and no more questions.

[CpMorgan]

I posted a similar suggestion in the Combat tour thread on the 15th of Dec. about perhaps utilizing the Flight training scenario that will be incorporated in the CT as a basis for a basic flight school course for the newbies.  I, personally took a few days offline to familiarize myself with the controls ect. before ever loggin in for my first 2 weeks. I still think this has potential, however, Schatzi is correct in the fact that some new players will not take the time to learn the basics even tho they are available. I guess that's why the real combat flight schools only accepted officers. Which in turn guarenteed they at LEAST had a college education. Donation = $0.02:D

[ColKLink]

I was the biggest pain in the butt when I started, and some would say I still am. I recommend anyone new to the game to visit the training arena, swallow your pride, and just do it, it'll save you hours and hours of 1 at a time questions in the main arena, that may or may not be ansewerd, Remember we in the main arena are in "fighting mode", not training,.... Most will help if possible, but I always recommend stopping into your local training arena, you will be pleasently suprised, I assure you.     as you were.  

[CpMorgan]

(quote from Schatzi) You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink.


I know how to do it, Schatzi, but it involves a concrete collar and an industrial strength vacuum cleaner.

Sorry, I know that was very bad of me, but what did you expect from a PIRATE? Hmmm..?

[Benny Moore]

Originally posted by Blooz
Also up at the top of this site hover your cursor over "SUPPORT" then click on "HELP" and "FAQ"

All the info about the game is located there but like Schatzi said you need to be inquisitive enough to look for it.

That's not at all true.  Those two pages contain some information, but a lot of the game's features are completely undocumented.  I read all of the official documentation available at the time, but much of the game I had to figure out by myself or ask questions in the Training Arena (which, by the way, often lacks trainers - I'm not faulting the trainers, but pointing out that the Training Arena isn't always an option for the green folks).  When I asked upon my first day in the game, "Why is there not a complete manual,"  someone instantly replied, "It's cheaper to have us put up with the questions."

[Bronk]

Hmm maybe ht could make it so ...1st time users can only log into the TA on their first log in.
After that it's their own fault for not utilizing it.


Bronk

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