Author Topic: iPhone! (Read 2058 times)

straffo · « **Reply #30 on:** January 09, 2007, 11:50:28 PM »

if it's as big as it look the iPhone is iHuge !

Black Sheep · « **Reply #31 on:** January 10, 2007, 12:01:15 AM »

4GB version - $499
8GB version - $599

If the crappy Treo's can still command as much as they charge for thiers, this will certainly outsell everything but the iPod itself.

I have a .mac account, so that is a no-brainer. I can sync my iCal, Mail and everything else.
It's got 802.11 Wireless.
Bluetooth 2.0
and I can put almost my whole collection of CD's in there? m4a files
AND when I am travelling to studios I can transfer 2-3GB's of audio files to either a PC or Mac.

Right now I travel about 150 days a year and I carry:

15GB iPod, charger, FM transmitter, in ear monitors
cell Phone, car charger, wall charger
Laptop, charger, mouse
External Firewire Drive, AC

So I will GLADLY pay $600 for this (once it's available)

Black Sheep · « **Reply #32 on:** January 10, 2007, 12:04:09 AM »

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Originally posted by straffo
if it's as big as it look the iPhone is iHuge !

Dimensions 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm
Weight 4.8 ounces / 135 grams
Battery Talk: 6
Battery Music: 16

Vulcan · « **Reply #33 on:** January 10, 2007, 12:12:46 AM »

Crappy Treo's? I've been a Treo user since the original 180's, and a very happy one.

For the last FEW YEARS I've been using its... Push Email (like Blackberry's); MP3 player; SMS; Web Browsing; Realtime Weather and exchange rate reports etc etc. Not to mention the phone functionality, contacts, calender, to do list, voice notes, and camera.

I currently use a Treo 650 with 1 Gb SD card. It holds enough music for a few hours as well as several of hours of audiobooks to listen too. Plus a few vid clips of the offspring for good measure.

My Treo has great battery life, and is rugged. I like the keyboard (the older Treo 180/270's had no keyboard, which I ended up hating. They had the same thing the iphone has, a touch screen keyboard). It plugs into my car stereo so I can listen to music while driving and never miss a call (pauses music playback when a call comes in). I have bluetooth headphones so I can wander around looking completely different to the wired up ipod noobs with their white earburds listening to a book or maybe making a call.

The iphone has a few things I'd be worried about... battery life... and those acceloromators and proximity detectors look like a recipe for disaster. For example: "it has a proximity sensor so that if you hold it up to your ear, the screen turns off (to save battery) and your face won't press buttons by accident", what about when you go to type something, how reliably will it detect between localized hand movement and an ear?

Finally, integretion. The biggest demand for Smart Phone users these days is enterprise integretion with Microsoft products, especially exchange. If it don't have this then the iphone will be stuck to a very small market of Apple fans. I've watched Pocket PC dominate Palm because of this need.

Saintaw · « **Reply #34 on:** January 10, 2007, 01:14:30 AM »

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Originally posted by Makarov9
Skuzzy is happy with what he has now.

Dagnabbit, no need to upgrade if it works just fine.

Ding!

straffo · « **Reply #35 on:** January 10, 2007, 02:52:52 AM »

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Originally posted by Black Sheep
Dimensions 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm
Weight 4.8 ounces / 135 grams
Battery Talk: 6
Battery Music: 16

Well mine is 100x46x19.5 mm, 99 grams (sony ericsson k750i)

Nilsen · « **Reply #36 on:** January 10, 2007, 03:19:02 AM »

Well.. the 5 hour batterylife is not the standby time, it is Talk / Video / Browsing time. There is not that many smartphones that has 5 hours of active talk time.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #37 on:** January 10, 2007, 06:42:21 AM »

Vudak, I do not have a radio in my house and do not turn on a radio in my car either. All the music I really care about fits nicely on about 5 CD's. My cxar has a six CD changer, so I still have some room. Not much music today is interesting to me.

Some of you imply this thing is intuitive. No need for a manual. BS. I can look at the pics above and have absolutely no idea what the heck those images/buttons it is showing are.

Rolex, not set in my ways. I just see this as another way to complicate my life. I like things simple when I get home. I get enough complexity at work everyday. When my Wife and I went to get our cell phones, she picked the Blackberry and I picked the simplest phone I could find.

Make fun of me all you like but I, personally, do not see this as being anything useful/practical. It is would be another device to break and/or clutter up my life.

And the reason I do not get iPods, is the sound quality. It sucks.
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5 hour battery life? Yeah, that thing would find a home next my Wife's dead Blackberry on the freeway somewhere in Dallas.

moot · « **Reply #38 on:** January 10, 2007, 06:46:27 AM »

Chairboy, look at the specs.. it's only that small at the cost of the rest of them.

It surely comes close to correctly doing what every other mfg. has failed to do (swiss knife integration), but it's still not right.. although I'll concede it should get the ball rolling.

My beef is the absurdity of a swiss knife with 100 different tools, but each tool 1/10th the size it needs to be, to be really useful, especially at that price.
With enough luck other mfg's will follow suit as they have with the ipod.

- like Skuzzy said above, the sound quality needs improvement. Sony makes a crappy looking digital player that is supposed to sound the best by far, why can't Apple do that too? It's a music player, not an aesthetics showcase.
I also don't get the point of a phone that's less of a phone to make room for camera functionalities. Why not just make a phone that's a simple compact tablet with the whole front face a tactile screen, and no boat anchors like a camera that's 100 times less good than average contemporary cameras?

Nilsen · « **Reply #39 on:** January 10, 2007, 07:03:02 AM »

A halway decent camera in a phone is actually perfect for me .

I do not bother bringing a camera with me at all times so many of my most interesting/fun shots have been mande with my phonecam simply because its always available.

In a phone my only true basic needs are: good phone, decent cam and a very good calendar with keyb or touchscreen that i can sync with my computers. The rest of the gadgets like wifi, email and gps in a phone are just fun extras.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #40 on:** January 10, 2007, 07:03:25 AM »

Oh, for the record, I have a nice Garmin GPS for my car. It is very useful.

I am not opposed to technology when it serves to make things easier. I just do not see this device doing anything to make things easier.

Cell phones do not make my life easier, but it is a neccessary evil for my line of work.

moot · « **Reply #41 on:** January 10, 2007, 07:30:07 AM »

I guess it's just me.. I'm not splitting hairs or being capricious.. It's just that when I walk by cell phones on display, and I see all that stuff stuck to them, miniature keyboard and all, it just looks like junk to me, honestly.
Another thing is that I like carrying as few things on me as I can.

Technology needs to be seemless. I'll gladly buy a phone that doubles as a camera, or anything else, when those features only negligibly deminish the phone they're sharing the plastic/metal shell with.

Max · « **Reply #42 on:** January 10, 2007, 07:40:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy

And the reason I do not get iPods, is the sound quality. It sucks.

If you're referring to those annoying things you shove into your ears; you're correct. You can get great sound by using headphones, or porting an iPod to a standard stereo system or Bose radio/cd player.

Blank · « **Reply #43 on:** January 10, 2007, 08:38:03 AM »

on the fence with this one:

I love gadgets and have a Nokia N80, so already have Wifi, TV over 3G, full web browsing and 3Mp camera and its smaller though thicker than the iphone and I like it. Its maybe just not that user friendly for your average person and as there is very little advertising for these top end smart phones alot of people dont even know the technology exist yet where as we are gonna get the iphone rammed down our thoats 24/7 until we believe.

I'm a 3d Graphic Artist (Military Simulation industry) so having access to my website portfolio is always useful for those impromtu meetings or when I'm trying to explain what i do when people ask "your a graphic Designer then?" Grrrr

Now its here that iphone interests me, bigger screen, nice porfolio in your pocket, tis all good in this respect.

But is the big touch screen a Pro or a Con? will it forever have dirty sticky finger marks on it?, will sandy fingers scratch it, how will the massive great screen cope with 24/7 life in your pocket? or are you gonna have to treat the iphone with kid gloves and buy a massive great protective case for it?

have to wait and see.

Chairboy · « **Reply #44 on:** January 10, 2007, 09:03:58 AM »

Great questions, Blank. I'm looking forward to seeing how this works out too. If they can protect against smudgy, oily fingers, then they really might have something. Same thing with protecting against FOD scratches from being in a pocket. I always put my cell phone in a different pocket than my car keys for exactly that reason.