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Offline Keeler101

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Question about upgrading duo
« on: December 13, 2006, 01:36:02 PM »
I presently have this Moboard
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8NGM2-FID
with a 3500+ 7600gt 1g ram
and was wonder if upgrading with one of the dual core makes much since
on that board?

Was thinking on 4800+ or 4600+ do you just slap um in there and your good to go ?

Thanks

Offline Sprint22

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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2006, 03:48:08 PM »
What is your reason for wanting to upgrade if i may ask? Are you using any programs that take advantage of dual cpus at this time?

I know there will be more software coming soon that will so that may be a consideration, but if you are just trying to speed up your gaming it won't matter much unless the game is coded so that it can take advantage of the second core.

Then again, AMD will be phasing out 939 pin cpu's soon so if you are planning on staying with that platform you may want to go ahead.

IMO, if your reasoning is to have better speed in your gaming and whatever you play doesn't take advantage of multi cpu's you may want to look at going from 1mb to 2mb on your RAM.

Basically, I am back to asking, what is the reason? :rolleyes:

LOL, hope that at least was slightly helpful.

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BTW- the board page from MSI says it supports those so you may be able to just drop it in, at most you may have to update the BIOS depending on how old your version is. I have an MSI board too and like it a lot, MSI has  BIOS updates/changes to add new functionality, etc. But (and you may already know this) their way of flashing the BIOS on their site is pretty easy.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2006, 03:53:12 PM by Sprint22 »

Offline Krusty

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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2006, 01:44:17 AM »
Sometimes folks just want more power (I know I do!).

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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2006, 05:04:53 AM »
They're not terribly expensive upgrades and AH will take advantage of dual core cpus, so why not?  You'll probably find your computer is more responsive overall too.  That's what I found.  AH got a better performance boost than I expected (I could go from 2x to 4x FSAA and still got better framerates) and now I don't have to quit using my computer while burning CDs and DVDs.

I'd also say go to 2 gig memory, but you'll get the best speedup with 2x1 gig sticks instead of adding another 2 512 meg sticks, because the nvidia chipsets won't run 4 sticks of memory at 1T memory timings.  It'll run 4 sticks of memory just fine at 2T timings, but for the fastest memory performance you'll want just 2 sticks of memory at 1T command rate.

As far as how to do it, you want to do a couple of things.

First, make sure your mobo bios supports dual core cpus.  It probably wouldn't hurt to get the latest bios from the mobo manufacturer.
Second, read the dual core sticky thread and install the drivers and MS dual core hotfix as described in the thread.  Basically you just download a few files and run them, not a big deal.

That's pretty much it.  You will want to check to make sure winXP is using the "ACPI Multiprocessor PC" driver after the upgrade, but winXP should automatically detect this and make the change without you doing anything.  To check this, right-click on my computer, select properties, select the device manager tab, and expand the "Computer" entry to see what HAL driver is being used for the cpu.  If it says ACPI Multiprocessor PC after a reboot or two following the cpu upgrade, then it worked.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2006, 05:10:11 AM by eagl »
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Offline Keeler101

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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2006, 05:20:10 PM »
Ok I flashed my bios what a heartstopping moment with the latest from MSI
spent a long time getting it going agin had to reactive windows

Downloaded and installed all the update as advised
Went for the 4400+ just got to wait for it to get here and slap her in Is it possible that i may have to reinstall windows or is that not a issue?

Thanks for the help:aok

Offline Krusty

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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2006, 05:39:22 PM »
I think you can just change the chip. Windows might want you to reactivate. You might need the motherboard CD drivers (if you got a disc with it) in case it needs anything for the new CPU. I think you'll be good to go, though.

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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2006, 05:16:25 AM »
I didn't have to re-install windows.  Just put the chip in, computer acted a little weird due to detecting the chip, rebooted a couple of times, and then installed the patches.  No big deal if it works right.
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Offline Keeler101

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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2007, 10:33:30 AM »
OK Finally got it together ,

ordered 4400+ oem from newegg but was dead put 3500 back in booted right back up, sent it back prompt refund, got a 4800+ from tiger at a steal $250 opened that baby up what a heatsink with pipes and all weighed a ton but all fit nice. Slaped it right in
XP installed drivers reboot that was it

Now performace wise it kicks 3500 to the curb Got to max out bot sliders and a 20+ fps boost:D AH2 takes real advantage of the dual core also cured some studdering

what should i set these bios settings to some are at default settings thanks for the help:aok


Offline wooley

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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2007, 12:06:08 PM »
Keeler,

If this was the first time you have swapped a chip, did you remember to use some thermal paste between the chip and heatsink?

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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2007, 12:10:48 PM »
I'm curious as to how AH makes use of multiple cores? As far as I can see, it maxes out one core, but the other core can be more or less idling. There are other benefits - like the OS and other apps don't have to contend with AH for processor time, but I don't think AH itself makes use of more than one core at a time.

Haven't searched this if its been discussed before so feel free to shoot me down  if I'm talking rubbish.

Offline Keeler101

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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2007, 01:10:08 PM »
Yea i stuck some artic silver on it, the 4800 came with a great heatsink/fan with a thermal pad on the bottom

Here is what my usuage looks like with AH offline mode with IE7 only other thing running I think it takes pretty good advantage of the 2nd core Not like FSX which i couldnt tell as much a difference