109k4

[Bruno]

There are plenty of other forums where those same old arguments are still discused if someone is interested to continue with them.

That's funny, you have been all to willing to continue with those 'same old arguments' in the past. I bet you haven't changed and if one of those 'old arguments' came back up you would be right in it.

Either way its still better then 'I thought the whole gun spun cause look at the game tracers' and 'I drove my jeep into a tank and killed it from inside'.

You can have it...

[straffo]

Originally posted by titanic3
i was reading a encyclopedie of military planes when i came across the 109. it said that the 109K4 had 2x 30mm under it wings and 2x 13mm on nose position (as always) so y does the 109K4 in Ah2 have only 1x 30mm?

I guess it was the 2 engines version ...






It was my : "how to start another 109 rumour" ,contribution

[Rino]

All of one 109Z was produced, and it ran into the allied bombing
offensive the hard way before it flew

[Viking]

The 109K-6 had three 30mm cannon, two were wing mounted. It never got into production however.

[gripen]

Originally posted by Bruno
That's funny, you have been all to willing to continue with those 'same old arguments' in the past. I bet you haven't changed and if one of those 'old arguments' came back up you would be right in it.

Maybe I have changed a bit. There are some threads going on AH general discussion right now but I don't see anything new there so why argue? Similar discussions are going on at least in the LEMB and Ubi forums as well but nothing new there either... Basicly the arguments are mostly the same as have been many years, some increase in the knowledge can be seen but otherwise it's the same old story.

In fact most WWII aircraft related discussions seems to be generated by rather small group of people. Their (or our) opinions are generally well known and discussions rarely reach some sort of concensus, in addition the discussions often become personal. In a way it's funny, but overall it's just a dead end road.

gripen

[Krusty]

Originally posted by Bruno
The knowledge level on this section of the forum has really went to hell in the past few months. Even with all the old arguments in the past there's was still something worth reading.

Now it's mostly nonsense.

Yeah, see the other "109 video" thread and you'll see why we've stopped bothering to correct people.

[Denniss]

No serial produced Bf 109E ever carried a spinner gun. They experimented a lot with MG FF and later MG FF/M but it did not work reliable so it was dropped until the 109F came to live. Proably the E-2 designation was reserved for a Bf 109E with MG FF spinner gun but it was not used, AFAIK only one prototype existed.

[Kweassa]

LOL, try telling that to Sweet2th, Denniss.

[straffo]

Originally posted by Rino
All of one 109Z was produced, and it ran into the allied bombing
offensive the hard way before it flew

It's based on two 109F not two 109K

[Sweet2th]

Originally posted by Kweassa
LOL, try telling that to Sweet2th, Denniss.

Yea because denniss got prior approval for his post and he is an acclaimed Author & 109 Historian.

[SunKing]

Originally posted by gripen
There are plenty of other forums where those same old arguments are still discused if someone is interested to continue with them.



gripen

link me please.

[Kweassa]

Yea because denniss got prior approval for his post and he is an acclaimed Author & 109 Historian.

 A little bit louder, please.

 I can't hear you admitting that you were wrong amidst all that squeaking heap of excuses.

[Bruno]

Originally posted by SunKing
link me please.

LEMB

AAW2 (requires registration / approval)

TOCH

The Focke-Wulf Consortium (CWoS)

UBIZoo

Axis History - Axis Equipment - Aircraft

There's tons - this section of the AH forum used to have lots of good information despite the 'same old arguments'.