Russian caught with 100g (3.5oz) of uranium

[Kurt]

Originally posted by bustr
Kurt,
Do you want Islam to conquer America? And if by chance they do it in your life time will you convert to Islam to save your life rather than fight to the death for the United States of America?

9-11 Happened... True.  Has nothing to do with me mentioning that 100mg of Uranium doesn't make a bomb... You keep missing that, that was the crux...  You decided to go on an unrelated tirade and you are still trying to draw me into it.

You'll feel better if America 'conquer's' Islam I assume?

9-11 happened.
August 6 1945 Happened
The Holocaust happened.
The Boston Massacre happened

In your version, 9-11 is the only bad thing that ever happened on Earth.

Yes, it turns out you can kill the citizens of another country and still have that country survive.

Islam is not a threat.  A small group of extremists are not representative of Islam.  Bin Laden and his band of Idiots are not Islam, And the Iraqi insurgency are not islam.

What you are saying is exactly the same thing that the terrorists are saying except that you have flipped the religions around.. They stir their people into a frenzy with the exact logic you are using... "Would you have Christianity come and take over our countries?  Would you have the 'crusaders' telling you how to live? Would you convert to Christianity or Judism to save your live when they come?"

You see, you are no better than they are.  You are trying to stir up the uneducated masses with a bunch of screaming and yelling.

[Vad]

Funny...

One Russian on the another side of the globe tried to sell some good stuff to Georgians. Ok, just a business, nothing personal.  A little bit strange decision, Georgia is very poor country without necessary equipment to even use this material properly, but may be he had reasons.

Yes, it is criminal business but a lot of people around the world are involved in criminal activity. And in the US too - drug dealers, war barons,  etc.

So, why are you so concerned? Almost all posts here are about how they will blow nuke bomb on US soil. Why do you think that that stuff will be used against the USA?

You become paranoiacs. Anything and everything what happens in the world scares you. What a happy nation!

[Skuzzy]

Tell me Vad, is your opinion representative of your entire nation?  I am going to go out on a limb and guess it does not.

Much like the handful of people who participate on this board.  If you think the people on this board reflect how our nation feels as a whole, well, they don't.

So, try to think about that next time, before attempting to stereotype us all.

[Vad]

Skuzzy, of course my opinion is only my opinion. I don't pretend to talk on behalf of all Russians.

I am forming my opinion relying on the available information. I have reasons to believe that selection of the people on this board is unbiased. In other words, they are chosen randomly among the population. If almost all of them express the same opinion I can consider this opinion as widespread. It is how polls work.

And, btw, let ask any American this simle question: "Do you think that black market of nuclear materials is direct threat to US security?" I really do believe that 99% of Americans will answer "Yes". If you don't think so I am more American than you.

And finally. You have nothing against stereotypes about Russia and Russians who "suck" according to Caligula. Why do you so sensitive about stereotyping Americans?

[Wes14]

Well, Grapevine probably isnt a good target for terrorists

aint i right?

[Debonair]

this is whhy we need B-29 with n0ok, for a deterrent:mad::aok:aok:noid:noid:O

[Skuzzy]

Originally posted by Vad
Skuzzy, of course my opinion is only my opinion. I don't pretend to talk on behalf of all Russians.

I am forming my opinion relying on the available information. I have reasons to believe that selection of the people on this board is unbiased. In other words, they are chosen randomly among the population. If almost all of them express the same opinion I can consider this opinion as widespread. It is how polls work.

I do not see this particular cross section of people on this board as anywhere near balanced.  And if polls are run this way, then it is no wonder they are incorrect.

And, btw, let ask any American this simle question: "Do you think that black market of nuclear materials is direct threat to US security?" I really do believe that 99% of Americans will answer "Yes". If you don't think so I am more American than you.

Whether it is or is not, it will not change the way I choose to live my life.  After all, there is not a damn thing I can do, if some nutjob decides to light off a nuke in my backyard.

And finally. You have nothing against stereotypes about Russia and Russians who "suck" according to Caligula. Why do you so sensitive about stereotyping Americans?

I was making a simple statement.  I am not sensitive about anything.  And if you would point out the post where Calig makes reference to all Russians sucking, then I will be happy to take care of the matter.

EDIT:  I found the post you referred to.  Taken care of.  You assume I read every post?  No way is that going to happen.

[Nilsen]

Hmm.... russians "often" tries to sneak radioactive stuff over our border. They are found and stopped _easily_. We inform the russians but we dont make a big deal out of it inernationally. It is however beeing taken very seriously here _and_ in russia but they have issues that are not as black and white or easy to deal with as they should be. There is a very close cooperation between the secret services of both countries to deal with this and the russians are by no means draggin their feet but as i said.. things are not black and white and the russian leadership and officials are not in as much control as we are used to here in the west.

It is a cat an mouse game with billions of $ involved on both sides of the good/bad fence. Cold war over? yes, but a much more dangerous war is waged behind the scenes.

So the next time some ehm "smart guy" sais "with us or against us" in the fight against terror then take a minute and reflect on what may be done without the media in the US getting involved because you have no clue about what sertain nations does witout the high profile causes.

[bustr]

Originally posted by Kurt


Islam is not a threat.  A small group of extremists are not representative of Islam.  Bin Laden and his band of Idiots are not Islam, And the Iraqi insurgency are not islam.

Kurt,

I hope you are right.

History says you are wrong. But then who is Islam. Are you? I know I am not and don't care. They killed 3000 of my countrymen in one day. Until "they" stop killing non-muslims, especially American citizens I want Islam turned into a pasture land for North American buffalo to graze on. At that point it will be 100% certain no American citizens will be murdered by Muslims for the politicized ideological reasons that spawned 9/11. It worked wonderfully against Japan treating all japanese as the enemy untill we defeated them and they unconditionally surrendered. The U.S. has not been attacked by them since.

The smuggling of 100g may not be a big thing in wheapons terms. It's a big thing in the validation of human nature, persiverance and human success against long odds. If someone wants to aquire the components, there are humans who will try to make them available. I notice so far all the suicide bombers were Muslim. Muslims belong to Islam.

Because we addressed the japanese with this logic we ended the war against them with 100% victory in less time then the United States has been tolerating Muslims killing U.S. citizens world wide since terroism as a tool of political aggression(assimetrical war) by muslim political groups from the middel east began.

[Nashwan]

They killed 3000 of my countrymen in one day. Until "they" stop killing non-muslims, especially American citizens I want Islam turned into a pasture land for North American buffalo to graze on.

You know what the terrorists think? They think Christians have killed tens of thousands of Muslims, by arming Israel, by arming dictators in the Middle East and looking the other way when their client states butcher their populations. And they want us turned into pasture land for what we've done to them.

Thankfully, it's a minority view on both sides.

I notice so far all the suicide bombers were Muslim. Muslims belong to Islam.

That's not even close to being true. The group with the largest number of suicide bombings to it's name is the Tamil Tigers. They have managed to kill the heads of state of 2 countries, the only terrorist group ever to have managed such a feat. And they are exclusively Hindu.

Because we addressed the japanese with this logic we ended the war against them with 100% victory in less time then the United States has been tolerating Muslims killing U.S. citizens world wide since terroism as a tool of political aggression(assimetrical war) by muslim political groups from the middel east began.

The problem is you were at war with the Japanese. Most of the Muslim terrorism originates from countries that are client states of the US. Think about that for a moment. It's the countries who's governments largely do your bidding that provide most of the terrorists.

[Kurt]

Originally posted by bustr
Kurt,

I hope you are right.

History says you are wrong. But then who is Islam. Are you? I know I am not and don't care. They killed 3000 of my countrymen in one day. Until "they" stop killing non-muslims, especially American citizens I want Islam turned into a pasture land for North American buffalo to graze on. At that point it will be 100% certain no American citizens will be murdered by Muslims for the politicized ideological reasons that spawned 9/11. It worked wonderfully against Japan treating all japanese as the enemy untill we defeated them and they unconditionally surrendered. The U.S. has not been attacked by them since.

The smuggling of 100g may not be a big thing in wheapons terms. It's a big thing in the validation of human nature, persiverance and human success against long odds. If someone wants to aquire the components, there are humans who will try to make them available. I notice so far all the suicide bombers were Muslim. Muslims belong to Islam.

Because we addressed the japanese with this logic we ended the war against them with 100% victory in less time then the United States has been tolerating Muslims killing U.S. citizens world wide since terroism as a tool of political aggression(assimetrical war) by muslim political groups from the middel east began.

Ok, I see... Its not so much that you're an extremist, the problem is that you're more of a racist.

People from all cultures have killed Americans.

We snuffed out what?  30,000 Iraqis in 2006?  Probably about the same number in the previous 4 years, so 5 x 30,000 = 150,000 Dead...  How many till you feel the blood price is paid?  You keep coming back to 3000 dead on 9-11... What do you think the average joe on the street in Baghdad sees when the U.S. lights up 10 times 3000 every year?

Do you think that is engendering love and brotherhood in the Muslim countries?  Do you think that the little 9 year old over there who is going to be carrying a gun in a few years is not going to come looking for YOU because of all this?

The U.S. will ALWAYS be hated by some country somewhere in the world.  Get over it.  The U.S. kills people too.  The only difference between the good guys and the bad guys is which hunk of dirt you're standing on when the war starts.

This war causes more hurt every day than it will ever prevent in the future.  Its a catastrophe.   Just because the hurt is somewhere else, you're happy with it.  Your vision is narrow, and your mind is hateful - You are just like them, except you pray to a cross, or perhaps a star of david.  Beyond which book you thump, you are no different than them.  You're evil and hateful and racist.

[bustr]

Nash,

I am aware of the client state and ideological issues having been a child growing up with parents who retired from the NSA. I lived in Peshawar Pakistan 1961-64 while one of my parents translated Soviet military radio chatter supporting U2 missions over Russia.

Everything changes, U.S. citizens have been murderd by the thousands in NY city. It's time to treat Islam like we treated Japan. When U.S. citizens are safe again, the U.S. can help the remaining Muslim populations living in the American made buffalo pastures rebuild.

 Japan eventually made out like a bandit as a economic super power from U.S. post war help. We are trying to do the same for Iraq and Afganistan while getting shot in the back and IED'd for our efforts. The only mistake was in not using the war with Japan approach first, then rebuild their countries.

Once you cease to respond to the mass murder of your citizens any time any place as an act of war with total and massive retaliation you are paving the road to the end of your Nation for all of your current and future enemies.

Kurt,

I'm worse and many more times evil  than a racist, bible thumper or Jew. I'm an Amercian(ist). I beleive any ideological, religious, political groups or country that murders American citizens should be addressed in a massive and 100% decisive response. Then when it's over we help the survivors rebuild with massive amounts of taxpayer dollars. While that is taking place the survivors can decide if it's worth killing american citizens because they don't like the United States. Ever noticed China does not have Muslims killing Chinese citizens very often?

Racist my pathooty...I'm an equal oportunity hater of anyone or group that murders U.S. citizens anywhere anytime.

[Kurt]

Originally posted by bustr
Ever noticed China does not have Muslims killing Chinese citizens very often?

Thats because China is Isolationist, and if we were smart, we would be too.  You don't see China poking there nose into every stupid little fight.  Why do we?

Other than being Communist, and generally a little creepy, China has the right Idea... Stay home, keep other countries scared of you, and mind your own damn business.

[bustr]

Originally posted by Kurt
Thats because China is Isolationist, and if we were smart, we would be too.  You don't see China poking there nose into every stupid little fight.  Why do we?

Other than being Communist, and generally a little creepy, China has the right Idea... Stay home, keep other countries scared of you, and mind your own damn business.

Kurt,

I cannot argue with you here.......

[john9001]

Originally posted by Kurt
Thats because China is Isolationist, and if we were smart, we would be too.  You don't see China poking there nose into every stupid little fight.  Why do we?

Other than being Communist, and generally a little creepy, China has the right Idea... Stay home, keep other countries scared of you, and mind your own damn business.

you mean like Tibet? or the Korean war?  or maybe hong kong or even Taiwan. or supplying weapons to north vietnam?  oh i know, it's those islands they grabbed for the oil.

yes , they certainly mind their own damn business.