interesting artical on upcoming cpu's

[Roscoroo]

I got wind of this about 3 months ago but here's a good read on whats up and coming in the cpu battle

 The chip industry is changing the recipe for its transistors to continue improving performance for another generation.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6153962.html

Intel plans to use the materials in its Penryn family of chips scheduled for introduction later this year and built with Intel's 45-nanometer manufacturing technology. It demonstrated systems running on those chips on Thursday for a group of reporters and analysts.

IBM and AMD also plan to use metal gates and high-k gate oxides when they are ready to start building chips using 45-nanometer technology in 2008, said Bernie Meyerson, chief technology officer of IBM's chip group. (A material designated as "high-k" means it can hold more electrical charge than other materials.) IBM and AMD have an agreement to collaborate on research into future chipmaking techniques.



Very interesting guys ,,, Bolth Intel and IBM have chips running already so I'd expect to see them within a year .

[Ghosth]

Yes but how fast are they?

For the past 11,12 years by the time I was ready to build a new box, the parts in my old one were obsolete. No longer on the market. Yet I see that no longer being true, seems that CPU's are running into a vertical limit on speed.

Hence the dual & quad core cpu chips.

Now they are talking about changing the recipe, and 45 nm process.

WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOeeeeeee

But how fast is it?
20 ghz? 40? 80? or only 5,6,7?

[eagl]

Anandtech quotes an achievable 3ghz almost from the start, with a more efficient cpu design on a clock-per-clock basis.  That plus less power leakage should result in more power per watt and possibly greatly improved clock speeds.

We'll have to see however.  The demo systems I read about were running just a bit over 2ghz in up to 2 x quad-core configurations.

[Mini D]

I'd be suprised if Intel doesn't have a full release of these by mid-Q4.

[Krusty]

Originally posted by Ghosth
But how fast is it?
20 ghz? 40? 80? or only 5,6,7?

You're asking the wrong question. Speed is no longer determined by Gigaherz. Look at the new conroe chips. Even using it as a single core, the 1.8GHz chip outperforms the P4 3.0GHz chips that precede it.

So Ghz now doesn't mean as much as it used to. Before, the chips themselves could only do just about as much work as the ones before them, so they would be made faster (thus doing the same work but squeazing more clocks into a second). Now it's the other way around. Now they don't need the extra clocks because they do multiple times the work in a single clock that the old chips could do.

So it's not "how many Ghz will they run?" but "by what % will they blow away their predecessors?"

[Ghosth]

Ok so how much will they blow away what we have now?

How many orders of magnitutude faster than say a Venice core 3200?
Just for comparison, because thats the one thing that no one seems to want to get pinned down.

[Roscoroo]

im reading around  a 40% increase over what we have now .

but then you cant be shure until its coupled with other hardware and the benchmarks come out .

the best part is prices get cut in half of the current stock

[Anyone]

Originally posted by Ghosth
Ok so how much will they blow away what we have now?

How many orders of magnitutude faster than say a Venice core 3200?
Just for comparison, because thats the one thing that no one seems to want to get pinned down.

alot faster, 40% that Roscoroo said is probably just right vs a venice