The Root Cause of Crime...

[lazs2]

If the flower lady was black as was stated...

There is about an 80% chance that she voted for politicians who take away her right to keep and bear arms.   Or, for the right of any of her friends and neigbors  to come to her aid with a firearm.

In essence... with her vote... she said..  I believe that we have no right to defend ouselves if it means regular citizens having the right to bear arms...

that she was willing to take her chances with the legal and police forces and was quite happy with the occasional rape and brutal murder by such a thug and felt that it was worth it to keep her fellow citizens unarmed..

and that a police report after her death was good enough.

that is harsh but it is the fact of the matter... when you vote for democrats you vote to put me in her place.  

that is why I can't "compromise" with you.   There really is no compromise on the issue and a vote for a democrat is a vote to remove my rights.   If you do...you are simply my enemy.

lazs

[Dago]

See Rules #2, #5

[bsdaddict]

well, at risk of being labeled as one who is "trying to capitalize on personal tragedy top turn this into partisan issue", I've got two comments...

Originally posted by Shuckins
A doper after money....with an accomplice in the truck.

if drugs were legalized they'd be cheaper.  If this guy could support his habit on a McDonalds salary this girl might be alive today.

Prison system is overloaded with criminals,

and many of them are NON-VIOLENT drug offenders who take up space better reserved for criminals who, you know, actually hurt people.

[Maverick]

I learned over 2 decades ago that the criminal justice system isn't.

It's not a system, it's not justice but it IS criminal.

Anyone who thinks the Police will be able to see and stop an attack on anyone in their home is seriously deluded. The Police will respond to the call and take the report after the attack is over. They can't be proactive and stop a crime from being committed, they have to wait until the crime has occurred. Until they arrive you are on your own.

[lazs2]

maverick... and that is why every cop I know or even talked to is a supporter of the second. (I don't count police chiefs as cops).   It is a rare cop who gives up his gun after he retires  even if he moves many states away from his former work.

bs...  I agree that the war on drugs is probly causing a lot of the crime we see today and is probly unconstitutional.

lazs

[Shuckins]

bsaddict,

Horse****,

If you legalized pot, they'd just buy more of it....get more crap-brained...and be more useless.


As for legitimizing crystal-meth, crack, and the other dangerous mind-altering drugs....it aint gonna happen Magee.

This perp was driven to the lady's flower shop by one of the local drug dealers....so he could get money to make his buy.

Legalizing drugs would not prevent people like him from becoming addicted and violent.  It would only make drugs cheaper...thus allowing them to build up even more dangerous and unhealthy addictions.  Such addicts would still need tons of money to make their buys.  And we know what that leads to....break-ins, holdups, muggings, and murders.

Lasz, as to the lady being black and voting Democratic...that's probably true, but it doesn't mean that she or her family were averse to owning or using firearms.  Quite the opposite is true actually.  I don't know if she had a pistol or shotgun in her shop, but probably so....in which case she simply didn't have time to get to it before she was assaulted.

I don't know for certain....the facts of the case are still coming out....so I'll post more about this later as they do.

Regards, Shuckins

[Sandman]

Originally posted by bsdaddict
well, at risk of being labeled as one who is "trying to capitalize on personal tragedy top turn this into partisan issue", I've got two comments...

if drugs were legalized they'd be cheaper.  If this guy could support his habit on a McDonalds salary this girl might be alive today.

and many of them are NON-VIOLENT drug offenders who take up space better reserved for criminals who, you know, actually hurt people.

Spot on, IMHO. The Drug War wastes resources that would be better used elsewhere.

[john9001]

back when pot was ignored by the cops pot was cheap and non-addictive and people didn't use the crazy chemicals, after the cops cracked down on pot it became expensive and addictive so people started using the crazy chemicals.



pot-heads are too laid back to rob anybody.

crackhead: "man i need a fix, lets go rob and kill somebody"

pot head: "not now man, i'm into this music"

[lukster]

"Restorative Justice" is pervading our liberal courts. While I think the concept is good, in practice it seems to be little more than an excuse for leniency. Leniency will not rehabilitate people like the murderer in this story nor will it serve as a deterrent for those perhaps at a pivotal point in their career as a criminal.

[bsdaddict]

shuckins, do you have any idea how much drug prices are inflated due to them only being available on the black market?  They're not inherently expensive or difficult to produce.  They're expensive BECAUSE they're illegal.  How many alcoholics steal and/or murder to pay for their drug habit?  How many nicotine addicts steal/murder to pay for theirs?

[stantond]

I have to wonder how many more decades it will take before the realization occurs we are not 'winning' the war on drugs.  I can truthfully say that taking drugs is bad and that people shouldn't take them.  I also think prostitution is bad.  

However, the reality is that they both have existed for centuries and will never be stopped.  Hasn't the United Kingdom tried some 'decrimializing' techniques for serious addicts?  I never hear much about the reuslts.  

The root cause of crime is sin, and that's here to stay.  There will always be crime.  Even if decrimialization occurs and addicts don't have to steal, tragedies such as this will still happen either due to drug induced paranoia or something else.

Afterall, the main reason stated to outlaw drugs was the crimal behavior of drug addicts, which is well documented.   However, the number of persons committing crimes on illegal drugs is still a much higher percentage than when the drugs were legal.  I believe the main reason drugs are outlawed is to protect people from themselves and is a form of morality legislation.  That would explain why it doesn't work.



Regards,

Malta

[zorstorer]

Originally posted by stantond
....  I believe the main reason drugs are outlawed is to protect people from themselves and is a form of morality legislation.  That would explain why it doesn't work...

Ding, ding, ding!!!


Plus one other thing to consider, other than a "inebriation" test, there is no easy way to determine if you are stoned or not.  It is much easier to whip out the breathalizer 9000, get a nice result and know if someone is leagally drunk.  But with, lets say, pot, what is the instant read test???

Develope the instant test for pot and you will make some serious money

Or you could just profile

[john9001]

Originally posted by stantond

Afterall, the main reason stated to outlaw drugs was the crimal behavior of drug addicts, which is well documented.    

the movie "reefer madness, 1936", yeah that was "well documented".

[SteveBailey]

Take it Thrawn.  Our system is messed up by judges who legislate from the bench and human rights activists who scream that felons should not be imprisoned but "treated".... law makers who make it difficult for the citizen to carry a gun legally when criminals have no qualms about breaking the law.

The judges and lawmakers are invariably liberals.... take it.

[Flatbar]

See Rule #4